To sustain an online cup system people actually need to sign up for them. However, it is ingrained in people's mind that ETF2L is the prime place for playing TF2, so people only play online cups if they are done on ETF2L. However, if you look at it objectively, ETF2L is a really shitty system compared to online cups. If you play well for 8 weeks and focus hard, you might win prem, which will win you a whopping €500, which is half of the prize you get from winning ONE qualifier. You can not fund LAN trips from playing ETF2L alone, that's why people need to support online cups so they keep happening, and so people can actually fund themselves to LAN without having to beg the community for a fundraiser every single year.

People from all divisions, please stop prioritising ETF2L above online cups, the priority is the other way around if you want TF2 to keep living. There is a reason why SUAVE/Serpents play in these cups and not in the season. There are 200 teams in ETF2L, if just a a fifth played in online cups we would have a MUCH healthier online scene.

we lost to the best team in the world

shadowburn wrecked with 200 ping against a top NA team, so bad excuse

also it was more like 120 ping, not even that bad, except for b4nny but he is a scout so no big deal against a pugchamp team

froyotech with 2 upgrade mercs lost to a high/lowprem mix in the first qualifier.

you are pretty good at winning when it doesn't matter... i55 group stages, i52 up until the grand finals etc.

there's literally no incentive to play unless you are the best team, at which point you can barely fund yourself to LANs without fundraisers. but to be the best you have to put a lot of time and effort into the game, except putting a lot of time and effort into the game is barely worth it in the first place.

if you want to see teams becoming better, there has to be an actual incentive to do the boring stuff in playing the game (organising, practising, team talks etc.). i've done them over and over again and after 7 years of playing this game i came third in prem which granted me an amazing amount of €200 which can fund 1/10 of our lan trips on budget+ (if the money were paid out BEFORE the LAN season, which is unlikely by ETF2L standards). i realise if i win this AMAZING prize of €1000 + win s23+24 + dreamhack, there is going to be a total of like €4000, at which point you can MAYBE even afford to book hotels during your lan trips. now was that worth the amount of time you put into the game to actually become the best? probably not.

if you think that becoming the best in the game is actually worth it, you are delusional. this isn't some pro esport, i play the game because i think it's fun, and although i WANT to become the best, i neither want or can put hours on end into this game because i actually have other stuff do in my life.

now can you idiots PLEASE stfu about the "state of tf" or whatever, I don't play the game for a living and you have no rights to complain about the standard of gameplay or production quality if you don't do anything yourself to try to improve the situation (maybe make a team that can beat the prem teams, except you can't because you're also fucking terrible).

Completely missed the target audience with this game, lol.

BabyRage

http://www.gosugamers.net/forums/categories/overwatch/

Terrible change, Sunshine is a good map

mfw sideshow plays dark souls

http://puu.sh/oM7wh/f3b71262fb.jpg

1. Admirable
2. Permzilla
3. b3nny
4.

Probably just included most official CP maps for some reason.

Well unless he gets a call from his boss

You got €1000 so you could fund your travels so DHS, basically a free vacation. You are guaranteed the 4th place prize money at DHS so even if you come dead last (unlikely regardless of the roster), you would still probably not be that far behind, regardless of the roster you put up (assuming you aren't missing too many people).

If you don't go, nobody might be able to take your place at DHS without the funding to go. You say that teams don't deserve money if they don't win, but the money isn't actually profit. It all goes to travel support, and even then people still have to pay out of their own pockets to go to LAN and compete. It puts an unreasonable pressure on the team that gets invited in your place to pay out of their own pockets because they have no funding.

Now that team won't be us because we will be absolutely wrecking LEGO in the last qualifier.