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wait, with how ridiculously strict the sandbagging rules are in rgl, how did they let stock and phone mainclass in advanced lmao
not that I have a problem with it because I think sandbagging is good, but still
scratchhSpaceGhostsCoffeequantity over quality is fygs strategyfyghow did we let fyg get four nerd stars
can confirm that this is the meta
cereaISetsulcereaIi think accused cheaters should be allowed to prove themselves at lanweird setsul rant
nope not suggesting that the are playing for the chance of an unban just think if they care enough to prove their skill, rgl shouldn't dictate their eligibility to play at lan unless it's a tournament run by them
but if there is a lack of concrete evidence then yea I think it's an interesting idea to use lan as a sort of gladiator's ground
I don't think any non-rgl lan is gonna come out and officially ban eli, but I'd also be very very surprised if he actually played at LAN. I could be overly cynical but I think most of his 'oh yeah dude I'll do whatever it takes to prove I'm legit stuff' was an attempt to skirt a ban, and now that he's been banned again he has no reason do to so.
feel free to prove me wrong, but if the dude has no history of going to LAN it just doesn't feel likely that he's going to start NOW of all times
torrityak404oh man if only you knew the whole of that storycereaIi think accused cheaters should be allowed to prove themselves at lan
There have been European players (Boomeh) who cheated online and then played just as good, if not better, at lan. Proving yourself at lan doesn't really prove anything if someone has actively been caught cheating.
yeah that one really always baffled me, dude was actually really good
idk some people are just weirdos I guess, like wasnt matnun the same?
I am pogging so hard right now!
So uh not to put pressure, but is a verdict coming down tonight?
I think saam lost weight and I gained weight, ez for me
plumIf no one trusts the AC team's decisions maybe we should just dissolve it cause what's the point of it then?
Again, I think that betrays some ignorance of the process. I am sure a lot of the reports the AC team get are absolutely blatant, like way more so than elijah, and there still needs to be someone to essentially rubber stamp those bans. The issue comes in high-profile cases like this one.
Always bet on the significantly heavier animal (unless venom is involved)
It sucks to say, but the weakness of the AC team now and going forward seems like a pretty intractable problem. There just aren't anywhere near enough people who meet the standards of 1) sufficient knowledge of cheats, 2) ability to remain objective, and 3) enthusiasm for the role (given 90% of the stuff they do probably revolves around random amateur players who aren't sexy to audit).
That camp3r guy's rant may have been unprofessional, as well as very unfairly dismissive of the efforts of the organizing advanced teams (who were, in fact, being proactive and trying to find solutions, like he recommended), but there is a small kernel of truth there, in the sense that the OMG CHEATER XPOSED threads will never fully replace actual AC admins. Like, dippidy could be the absolute best judge of scout cheating, and it wouldn't matter 99% of the time, because I doubt he wants to give up his free time combing through demos of total randos with no personal stake in the outcome.
I'll admit ignorance of whether AC admins are 100% volunteer or if they actually get paid, but if they don't that may need to change in the future. I'm just not sure we'll ever get past the obviously overstretched skeleton crew otherwise.
I do want to add that I sympathize with RGL in terms of timeline/how you triage various AC issues. In theory, if a case of some random lower div player comes up first in the queue, it would be 'fair' to finalize that outcome before doing the elijah case. However, life isn't fair, and the simple truth is that far more people care about a higher div player on an undefeated 1 seed right before playoffs. Allowing a cheater to play in, and very likely win advanced is just a much worse look than some guy on like the 9th place newcomer team or whatever. I think pretty much everyone would support a process by which super high profile cases get prioritized, since the league/community as a whole has more of a stake in the outcome. Then again, it's obviously extra important that the correct decision gets made.
Burying the lede there bud