liasTotally agree that lubing linears makes a significant difference (I use lubed Novelkey Creams) - but just because they aren't lubed doesn't mean they don't sound or feel good imo. I think non-lubed reds specifically are great.
obviously this is preference, so I will not speak in terms of FACTS, but in terms of CONSENSUS:
the general consensus in the mech community is that creams are an overhyped switch that is fairly scratchy even when lubed unless it has been heavily broken in, so it would make sense that the difference isn't as apparent. I recommend trying a jwk switch, they rule.
ghadillilinear > clicky/tactile for gaming. The reason being that tactile/clicky switches have to travel farther up the ROM of the plunger to reset whatever mechanism is creating the click or bump before you can register a second, separate stroke than a linear switch would. It's admittedly not a major difference, but it's very real and will introduce microsecond delays in inputs that wouldn't exist on linear switches, which can make the difference at the top levels of competitive gaming. For casual gaming it's fine to just get whatever switches you like the most, but if you're asking about min-maxing for gaming specifically, the correct answer is linear switches and probably even Cherry Silvers or equivalent switches with higher actuation points for shorter keystrokes. This is a literal microsecond difference and most people won't care and/or will just get used to the delay, but one is objectively faster than the other, and therefor better for time-sensitive tasks like those common in very high level competitive gaming.
I am aware of the mechanics that supposedly explain this argument, but I still find it to be nonsense. There are basically no real world applications where that will make a difference, unless there's some game I don't know about where mashing the W key like 20 times per second in separate keystrokes actually matters. most pro players in actual esports just use whatever keyboard sponsors them, and tf2 players use all sorts of different switches and it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. some people's preference will lead them to prefer switches with very light actuation, or even optical switches, but others might find that more likely to make them actuate a switch by accident or double tap a key and would therefore prefer a heavy switch like mx blacks. I personally have gamed on linears and tactiles and have not really felt like it impacted my performance in the slightest in real-world applications. to me it's in the same category as like mouse polling rate and input latency, where you don't want them to be awful but the products that advertise ridiculously high polling rate and low latency are not that distinguishable from other products in real-world settings.
ghadilliFor typing the same doesn't apply because hitting a key 2 microseconds slower isn't going to make a difference, but I do think that most people would prefer 1.) a heavier switch and 2.) a tactile/clicky switch. Both for the reason that they discourage bottoming out for every keystroke, which can make typing for long periods of time more comfortable. Again, most people probably won't care, but at least from personal experience it does make a big difference in comfort when typing out papers, emails, etc for long times.
bottoming out on every keystroke is only uncomfortable if your keyboard sucks imo! and I enjoy typing on both linears and tactiles, so I also think this is a bit of a myth, because I also know people who don't enjoy typing on tactiles and find the bump more uncomfortable than the bottom out in long typing sessions.
ghadilliI have Creams on my LAN (lmao) kb, how much better would you say they are with lube in them? I know they're supposed to be self-lubing with PTFE impregnated plastic, so I haven't tried lubing them personally, but would you say it improves them a lot or just a bit?
as I said in the other thread, that 'self-lubing' thing is just marketing bs. all mx-style linears benefit from lubing, and creams in particular benefit from heavy use before they reach their full potential (some would say using them unlubed first for a while to break them in, but I'm not personally sure if that makes a difference).
bertoCurrently using lubed gat yellows in a GPRO X and it is pretty good for a budget. I also got some case foam and lubed and band-aid modded. the POM plate on the GPRO X works really well with yellows, giving a more thockier sound. Yellows will always be budget king for me
gat yellows are indeed pretty much the best "true" budget switch (what constitutes budget will vary from person to person.