try http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?62-Teams-Looking-for-Players instead

www.last.fm/user/elliott___

idk if you can do these w/o a plugin but they're really nice if you leave your browser muted or are looking at nonbrowser windows and stuff

really cool read, more of these would be really fun too

maybe you might wanna link some demos/casts of modern TF2 games for your second section, but other than that it looked

COOL

tbf ur on a nerd forum

no one here would go to a bar

someone going to a bar is literally the highlight of this forum today

comical

if you contact enigma you can reserve your week to kill tf2

syath is on my ugc team

i can confirm he is a literal god

ur nipple seems like its too far to the right

srs protip:

get started now

I waited and now im lolcommunity college partially because of that

i got my community college scholarship extended :)

safmio

if tagg's point is that invite players play too much for the payout to be worth it, then my point is that u can just play a lower div w/ friends and still play tf2, whcih invite players clearly want to do. ur point seemed like saying that u can only play invite if u make it to invite, which is clearly not true. No one is being forced to play invite. If ur invite, u can literally play any division of tf2 (6s at least) that u want. which implies that everyone playing invite wants to be in invite, meaning tagg saying that being in invite isn't worth it seem silly, because clearly at least some people think its worth it
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froyo doesn't need to scrim because all of their players are already at the top because they have shitloads more experience than basically any other active group of players.

thefragile i think has the right idea imo: anyone can beat 4g, but no one really wants to put the time in because its not worth it to put that amount of effort in

putting these ideas together, we see that people are playing invite to play against teams that aren't 4g because they find it very fun, which is consistent with why everyone watches invite matches that aren't against 4g

i cant type sorry

"I'm not having fun in invite because playing so much tf2 doesn't appeal to me; however, I would like to continue playing 6s."

if this is the is situation being described, then moving to a lower division where you don't have to play as seriously or as much is perfectly valid. ofc if all the invite players dropped to open or UGC it would kill invite, but that would only happen if no one was having enough fun in invite for it to be worth it

" why Froyo is such an issue right now."

its only an issues if you think that teams that put less energy into the game should beat teams that try to get better (or if you want to watch close games from the #1 and #2 but undermining the idea of competitive play to increase watchability is stupid imo)

ofc its an issue

but people are clearly still playing in invite, when open, im, and UGC are all still open to them, and require much less of a commitment, so clearly for some people, it's worth doing for at least some amount of time

The issue here is the amount of time you put into making LAN vs what you get out of it isn't equal in the slightest bit.

its very clear that to some people, being good at a small niche part of a fairly popular shooter is actually very important and they get a lot out of it. It isn't losing hundreds of hours if you were having fun.