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#188 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

harbleudummyResponding to an apology with that much hostility resulted in the following responses, it's not hard to understand that.according to medred though ash's apology was insincere based off his previous comments made. im not defending medred at all because the guy seems kinda like a tool, but if his original intentions were trying to make the community aware that ash just posted that for damage control then i think his hostility is somewhat justified. the whole situation is still really stupid though

Thats fine, I was responding to someone saying that this turned into a shitfest because of how people responded to medred. I'm saying that medreds post, justified or not, was always going to cause controversy.

posted about 8 years ago

#185 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

santababywho cares? thats btwn medred and ash. the whole point of this thread has been hijacked by people talking about medred now. and its not really even that hostile considering what ash said.

haha oh shit youre right. okay, now that that's settled lets all get on with our lives.

posted about 8 years ago

#180 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

Case in point about reading comprehension

posted about 8 years ago

#178 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

it's insane, ive never seen people struggle to comprehend something so rudimentary. You are claiming that none of this would have been a big deal? Are you trying to say that after saying this

"I don't know if b4nny encouraged you to post something, but I was really hoping you would keep quiet. I'd love to believe this, but I'm fully aware that I personally became a "retard" and a "nigg er" after rescinding my contribution in addition to the events that led up to the retraction in the first place. Let's just call this what this really is...damage control. I do not accept your apology as I know nothing has actually changed. Your behavior and that of others like showstopper is cancerous."

that the thread would have just died out? That would've been the end? He sparked this whole shitfest with this attention grabbing post, he knew this would happen and i bet hes loving every second of it.

Responding to an apology with that much hostility resulted in the following responses, it's not hard to understand that.

posted about 8 years ago

#172 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

you have 0 reading comprehension if you still think people care whether or not he accepts the apology

posted about 8 years ago

#168 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

He is apologizing for his actions to the community, I don't know why the concept is so difficult to understand. Clearly the community cares about the subject considering the amount of people posting in this thread, those are the people hes apologizing to.

posted about 8 years ago

#165 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

taggYou are allowed to not accept apologies, I don't know if any of you guys knew that.
Carter made his apology to the entire community, which was nice to see. MedRed, who is a part of the community, let it be known that he does not accept his apology.

So fucking what?
This thread turned into a shit show because for some reason none of you can accept the fact that MedRed didn't accept Carters apology, something that has nothing to do with any of you. Sure he could have kept this information to himself but you all could also just be fucking adults and accept that he has the right to feel differently about this than you.

And what do you honestly expect when this amount of money is involved in this situation?
In any other esport or sport for that matter, sponsors would have pulled support over something like this unless the issue was resolved. It's their fucking money, they can choose how to spend it how they like. If they are not happy with an apology, get ready to make the choice to either drop the player or drop the sponsor.
This is real life, not some stupid "get everything you want" made up fantasy.

Carter said some stupid fucking shit, MedRed has the right to feel however the fuck he feels about it, 4G can make the choice to keep the money or not simple as that.

It was upsetting to hear that all this was going on. Carter messaged me privately with an apologized and decided to make a public apology owning up to his actions and taking responsibility which I like. I've met Carter several times. He's young, easily impressionable and said some stupid shit after hanging around people that make stupid fucking jokes.
I've forgiven him and MedRed has chosen not to based on other private interactions he has had with Carter.
Too bad. Accept that he fucked up and move on
This is the real world, you don't always get what you want. Especially when you're using other peoples money

I'm just going to assume you skimmed the thread, because otherwise I'm at a loss for how you could misunderstood the progression of this thread.

Ash apologizes --> med red doesnt accept (fine) but also announces that he prefers ash never made a post.

this makes no sense, the apology wasn't just for medred, it was for the community, after being called out on it he proceeded to say very vindictive, self centered, and some downright disgusting things.

I don't know if you knew this, but people have every right to be offended by some of the shit hes said in this thread.

posted about 8 years ago

#158 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

Yeah, I dont think anyone has demanded him to accept the apology

posted about 8 years ago

#146 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

ok guys no more posts directed at him, he might come back

posted about 8 years ago

#137 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

you spelled twilight wrong

posted about 8 years ago

#135 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

you punished him by refunding your donation, and that forced him to acknowledge his mistake. Now you're hungry for more punishment. It's disgusting, next youre going to find him irl and chop his head off or some shit. You have lost your mind!

posted about 8 years ago

#131 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

MedReddummyMedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.
That's exactly what I did.
you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?
Wouldn't it make more sense for me to fuck him with the truth now than wait until after it won't affect him?

..why is the goal to fuck him?

posted about 8 years ago

#123 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

MedReddummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.
That's exactly what I did.

you made a huge deal out of his apology, which resulted this disgusting putrid mess of a thread, proceeded to recite your gaming resume (which is quite impressive i might add!), then stated you would out ash about more shit after i55, because now that you no longer have money to rescind you still need the upperhand in some other way. Did I miss anything?

posted about 8 years ago

#112 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

vibhavpI might not agree with everything MedRed says, by once you donate more than a thousand dollars to _anyone_, its normal to expect, if not some professionalism, but some decency from them. If not anything, this discussion could be a reminder to ourselves to maintain that same decency, which surely goes a long way for a healthy competitive TF2 scene.

Also, stop with all the shitposting and personal insults. It does nothing but derail the whole discussion.

If he rescinded the donation, told them why he did it, then the moral of the story would be "the community doesn't put up with unprofessionalism/racist remarks" etc

the way he's executed it, its more like "I am a golden god for donating 7k to tf2, feel my wrath"

posted about 8 years ago

#105 Froyotech i55 Fundraiser Update in TF2 General Discussion

bowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.

It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?

A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.

posted about 8 years ago

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