the fact that they havent moved the season or even responded yet says a lot about this supposed "community feedback orientated" league, lol

Admins in any case should be approachable and open to compromise, especially when the overwhelming ammount of feedback to a proposed change is negative, ETF2L Admins however seem to be following a trend of doubling down on their stance with extra blog posts instead of opening themselves up to the option of simply changing their schedule and working out a solution with the community that is needed for their league to operate.

But instead of just admitting that the proposed dates are just not a good idea and moving forward with a regular schedule (as kaidus already said: during the time with the highest team count ETF2L has seen in a long time due to covid) they double down with an entirely new post, while debating with users in the #feedback channel in their discord, even going as far as to banning people that voice their opinion in wanting the season to be moved into 2020, what kind of league is this?

Even in the past ETF2L Admins acted almost randomly, citing rules like the "Admin discretion" rule as a wildcard to justify any behaviour of the leagues staff, banning users for stuff that has nothing to do with the league, or just generally doing sloppy work.

I don't know what kind of league ETF2L is meant to be, I can only hope that the league either improves and learns from their mistakes or that a new league comes along in the future once ETF2Ls legacy comes to an end.

I love you and i'll miss you, thanks for everything. RIP

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The casting was so fucking good in this, in general I really feel like the Podcast has helped so much with getting more people to give a shit about RGL and the teams, I barely knew any of the NA teams before and by watching the podcast they helped build storylines around the teams that got me attached to the season, barely watched any RGL games before but now I tend to check out VODs whenever I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcnhjqG8aZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfG5qFhL3CA

From having looked at the guys history, it does seem a little far fetched that someone that last played a season of ETF2L in early 2017 in season 26 to not be allowed to play in low 3 years later, especially because he only played 1 game in a qualifier since then, but then again we are talking about a former prem player trying to play in the second lowest division the game has to offer, so what gives?

If Valve were genuinly interested in making TF2 an esport, how fucking hard is it to communicate? Having to figure out the ancient fucking code to meeting the allmighty VALVE GODS and crack the code on what the fuck they actually want has been attempted for a decade and yet the most we got was some "we'll think about it" that never went anywhere. It is not a reasonable state of affairs for any company to place this burden on their customers just because you placed the community in a maze and we ended up going our own way instead of following the one magical path that could have >>>POTENTIALLY<<< lead to a valve supported game in 2012, reminder that this path is made by the same guys that thought turbine was a map that belongs in competitive play, limiting your config to high settings with the highest dxlevel on a game that about as optimized as a PS4 game thats trying to run on a PSP.

What's a better way? Praying to lord gaben and experimenting for years and years until someone from Valve actually shoves his desk back into the TF2 room, which hasnt had a team ship a major update since 2017 OR after countless attempts to grow the community (TFNew, Newbie Mixes, Guides and Videos), countless formats and over a decade to just accept that it just wasnt meant to be, make the best out of what we have and just try to keep the people that are already here happy instead of trying to force a fairy tale into reality.

If Valve actually wanted to make TF2 a big esport, they totally could. TF2 ticks every box to be a viable esport, but its just a faint dream at this point.

How will ETF2L Admins be able to allocate certain players to divs, surely this is going to result in just a fuck ton of sandbagging, a former top mid player could now play in Open, you couldn't prove that logs are from officials, and even then, having to do so for each and every player is going to be a long, time consuming process. Medals can't be an indicator either because you dont need to play to get them.

I find it strange that a website like ETF2L, with thousands of people visiting it daily, which represents such a central part of EU TF2, has...1 backup per year? Nevermind the accounts that will now no longer exist (this comes right after a highlander open event that is meant to draw in fresh players), the officials and experience on player pages that people use in order to get on teams, or medals that will now take even longer than usually to distribute.

This is also hurts guys like Kritzkast, TFTV and other community casters that drew most of their information from ETF2L match pages, like the STVs, Maps, times/dates, and Pick Ban Process, where are they supposed to get this information from now? Some grand finals have already not been casted because no one knew,

The lack of clarification on the admins part on what happens with pending playoff games in Highlander has lead to a situation that allows losing teams to claim that the game was a scrim, unless it was explicitly agreed in the chat of the game that it is indeed a Final/Semi Final etc., it also just left teams in the dark on what happens with the games, leading to each individual team having to ask instead of them just posting an announcment.

I feel like people meme a lot about this, but this situation genuinly brought out a lot of the flaws with etf2l, hope they improve going forward.

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remember guys...the longer we wait the bigger the major...

https://twitter.com/AbsoluteLegends/status/1260151415441371139

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Speaking of prize pool, how come ETF2L doesnt run any fundraisers for prize pools anymore? They did it back in season 20 and raised like over 3K, even if you dont get as much today, im still wondering as to why its been left in the dust kinda

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