considering move ups havent happened yet and the fact that tri is a pretty good admin if any last second invite team forms they'll get the spot over mal im sure

dont play medic ur too much of a tilt baby

please make this team happen so bullet and his band of retards dont shit up the division

bump

also if spades and tiptoes decided to not be fucking retards and just play IM with rosters that would easily go 8-8 it would go a long way towards tf2 not dying

theyre also willing to pay 404's invite fees just to have him roster ride so it looks like they have an invite medic on their team.

this level of autism is nearly unmatched

tfw u just cant stop beating slemnish and aim and killing their team Feels85BmiMan

Yeah the death pit on the side mostly just feels gimmicky.

As for the tunnel under the point, it's basically an insanely long flank route that is entirely countered by one person spotting the left side of point, so attackers would never go down there because it just makes your push harder and defenders would never go down there (more than peeking in) because it takes them out of the fight. I would scrap it entirely but if you're set on keeping it you need to add some sort of positional advantage to using the space.

Also just noticing now but it would be nice if the roof over spawn house wasn't clipped so weird and you could stand on it easier.

If people think an hour is too long what about two 20 minute halves, but use mp_windifference 5 instead of winlimit 5

also a half time forces another mid fight if teams are playing slow as fuck which it seems like eu could use right now

Hey, we were pretty split on this map. I really liked it but some others in the pug didn't. The pieces of feedback we agreed on were that the map could do well to be condensed horizontally. The distance from spawn to point was good but the distance on either sides of the point seemed a bit big, it was too easy for people to get behind. The house on point had a window that you could spam thru that also got annoying.

All of the ways to push out lobby were pretty ass so if you shrink the map down a bit you may also need to make those easier to push.

Overall this map was pretty polarizing, I really liked it tho!

We didn’t actually play this map because just from walking around we could tell that it was unfit for 6s. It is way too big, the entire area between the first and 2nd lobbies could be cut out because as it is right now there is no reason for it to be there.

The entire area under point is basically pointless, no one will ever really have any reason to go down there.

The are off the map that you can fall off is sorta dumb, no 6s maps have areas you can fall off and die. Also the tress you can jump to are sorta weird too.

Spawntimes were so ridiculously short that any actual testing was basically impossible. You could wipe a team on mid and be unable to push second because they were all respawned. On top of this the cap times for every point felt way too long.

On last you can fight point from the spawn shutter. This is completely insane because a demo can spam stickies on point, walk 2 feet to resup, and spawn over and over with 0 threat of dying. You can also build a sentry right outside spawn and repair it in the same fashion

This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPSsOEhKSIo&feature=youtu.be

Beyond that it’s hard to get any real feedback, the pugs literally felt like 30 minutes of a DM server where pushing was impossible because of spawn times.

http://puu.sh/qZ2Yo/86f26e0892.jpg

https://open.spotify.com/user/121730359/playlist/3mx9I6KTcqPwlBq2FuxMpm

http://etf2l.org/teams/21897/

nah dude u dont understand his etf2l team tied one map and lost 4 he's a great player and esportser