Okay, so there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. Sorry for wall of text and bear in mind that my experiences are as an active duty soldier.
KarovaThis is a perfectly valid question. If you talk to someone who isn't a recruiter you can learn a lot of things about how to negotiate for the best salary, gain insight about their personal experiences and such. Tbh the recruiter would probably be one of the last people I talked to.
You can't really negotiate your salary, all jobs are based off the military pay scale which is based on rank. With that being said ,there are things you can do while you are waiting to get shipped to basic training to get promoted even before your contract starts. For example, I had 60 college credits when I shipped so I was an automatic E-3 instead of an E-1.
You are right about recruiters though, some are decent but a large portion of them will not fight for your best interests. If you want something, get it in writing/in your contract.
ProcreativeI come from a pretty mil-spec family and I can say that its is a very smart financial move and they will basically throw you through any school your motivated enough to get into. That being said wanting to go to school for free is not a good reason to enlist. You have to be very tolerant of bureaucracy and very willing to sacrifice larger than expected aspects of your life in terms of relationships/time/fun. Its more a personality type than anything else.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'throw you through any school you're motivated enough to get into.' If you're talking about college, it largely depends on your unit. If your unit is high speed and does a lot of training, then obviously you would be obligated to work and not go to class. If you're talking about occupational training, then yes, so long as you score high enough on your ASVAB you can get a contract for pretty much any enlisted job granted their are openings.
runescape_boy_420Don't fraud enlist is pretty good advice in your case because you've admitted to self harm on this forum. Your recruiter will tell you to not list any therapy you've had for this and to never admit it happened at meps, and that will get you all fine and dandy through the enlistment process since meps doesn't have the medical or insurance records you haven't provided. But once you've enlisted, it doesn't matter if you rat out your recruiter saying he told you to lie(lol never tell on your recruiter its always your fault "you forgot". Seriously.) you've already signed the contract saying that you assume all responsibility for what you've chosen to disclose. The background check for the security clearance will reveal that you've self harmed or have had therapy and you WILL be less than honorably discharged and they CAN revoke all benefits and every single dollar you've earned while in the military.
Although if you haven't had therapy and are all secretive and shit the only way they can disqualify you is if they see your scars or you start cutting yourself while in the service.
+the military is not for people predisposed to self harm but you prolly already know this bleh
Yeah, don't lie about past medical conditions or any type of criminal infractions. You either end up screwing yourself physically because your condition gets worse with the added stress of PT, or occupationally because your security clearance gets denied/revoked because they found out you shoplifted and failed to mention it in your enlistment documents. Contrary to popular belief, the military is pretty sensitive to mental health issues. Don't get me wrong, you will most definitely not get babied by drill sergeants in basic; their job is to break you and build you up again. But should you develop any type of mental disorder we have fine medics and mental health specialists/providers.
Hallowidk if i would serve in the army i would make sure i'm not from one of the most aids countries in the western world. i get that u wanna leave usa but i dont see why you gotta kill civilians to do it uknow
omnificwonderful representation of what being an army engineer is like
Yeah, cool story bros.
As a final note, I would not recommend staying on the enlisted side of things if you intend to make the military a career; for any motivated individual, it will become apparent enough that enlistment should be used as a stepping stone for either payment of college or transitioning to the officer/warrant officer side of the military (which requires a degree in most cases). For example, being an enlisted combat medic has it's perks, but generally my career progression would stagnate to simply training/supervising new combat medics after the rank of sergeant. However, should I decide to progress to officer, I could become a hospital/medical platoon administrator, physicians assistant, nurse, doctor, the list goes on. The military has programs for this type of career progression.
Or, you can take the experience you gained, finish your enlistment, and get out and go to college essentially for free armed with your new confidence and experience to share your skills on the civilian side.