SpaceCadetBesides, if you can't push a team off your own 2nd point, why should you have any claim on winning the match?
i disagree completely:
if the team just parks the bus and doesn't do sacks its kinda hard to push out of last on even ubers/numbers
on top of that on a lot of maps like badlands and metalworks, it's so aids to push out of last that you often need more than just a single pick and it's hard to push out even with 100% uber advantage
the team parking the bus could also just build a sentry/tele and wait the time out very easily