i mean this is nice and all but A this is an old school community with an old school vibe and way of thinking, we dont and never really will have any of that touchy feely justice warrior shit that is so prevalent now a days and id be more then happy to keep it that way. And B most of the shittalking really comes from th UGC Steel and Silver warriors thinking that they are gods among men so yeah, go talk to them lol.

Yes we have tragic to thank for that we have all the servers and mumble covered

Like alosec said up above the mixes need help and I am a tad mad at the way the community has handled them thus far, so this is going to be long and ranty and raw as all hell, so if I make anyone mad or "over step my bounds" by calling people out im not really sorry right now.

So as some of you may know the 6v6 Newbie Mixes are something that haven been running for a long time, they started off the back of Shwan, Giffy and Pet to give new 6v6 TF2 player a jumping off point to start from. Over the history we have had many many many people help out by either coaching or being a admin for the mixes and a big shoutout goes to those people. With that being said we are getting close to being totally done with them at this point, Pie had totally left and many people no longer have time to do them.

You may ask why pie left (hint its more then CS), you may not, either way I am going to tell you because its a problem that needs to be changed or we are done with the mixes. The main reason that this iteration of the mixes is falling apart if because of the fucking community being near useless, this is not directed to anyone that has been coaching or helping out (big thanks to you guys <3) This is directed at everyone else that has ever said the mixes are a good thing and they need to say alive, but yet when we ask people to coach its almost always "NO". Its also when we reach out to people that can make an actual difference with now things go, it does not matter if its the 4G guys or ANY other high level player, we have reached out and asked you all to come and help at least once and we might get like 2% of you actually replying and almost none of you come to help anymore so thank you so much for the kind words of "the mixes are great and they do a lot for the community" a lot of good they do for the actual running of them.....

With all they being said im going to call out some people for one last time if you actually want to see the mixes keep going and think they are good for TF2 then fucking do something about it. So anyone with ANY IM+ experience that wants to stop fucking crying about how tf2 is dead and come and help out that would be wonderful, Hell if you have 1 season of competent open play come and fucking help and im going to ask for one last time, B4nny come for a single fucking hour once in a while? You JUST made a video about how Lange is wrong etc... there was no reason in the world that that had to be made at all and it put way more pressure onto Lange then there needed to be, so how a bout you man the fuck up, stop streaming CS go for a hour and come prove that you actually think TF2 is not dead, thanks.

SO that about wraps it up, not sorry in the least that I sound like an ass, shit needs to change and you are the drivers behind it so dont say they are just a good thing, man the fuck up and help out or just fuck off because you are part of the problem. Yet again this is not pointed to wards anyone why actually shows up and helps out.

he hacks

Not going to lie I am kind happy the tf2 isnt a "true e-sport" or what ever, I am not sure how many of you actually keep up with dota 2 or CS but the fans of the comp side of them are fucking horrible. Alot of the grass-roots feeling that made quake early CS and TF2 amazing to play is almost totally gone on those games. Any time you get a bad game or a team has a bad showing the pitchforks are raised like no other by the fans because "The players didnt play the exact way I wanted them to and because I supported this tourny through what ever means (in game tickets or cases etc...) all of the players are now playing for me". I see alot of this sense of entitlement on various forums and it makes me really mad, like what ever happened to that days where people played these games because they liked to or watched games not because they paid some amount now they expect the players to be their slaves but because they wanted to support the players? And because of this it makes me happy to see TF2 at its roots still, a group of people that play and support the game not because they expect something out of it but because it is fun for them, I would much rather have that in a small game then have a huge game with lots of eyes on it, but with the rule that the players dont play for themselves anymore, its a video game for fucks sakes. And yeah we may never get big but atleast we still have a community that plays for the right reasons.

sorry if this doesnt make any sense its 3AM lol

Anytime people start to talk about the decline of tf2 this video always comes to mind, might not be the exact same but when and if it dies we will all be in the same place :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGnn6eLcFmc

Lost Brotherhood Community, amazing little orange server community back in 09/10, some of the old AI (Apoplexy Industries) players played there from time to time and thats how I found out about 6v6

if you cant kill or even push away a single demo in a pub server with like 12 other people you dont deserve to leave the spawn

ahh alright never mind then i thought ESEA gave up on paying any tf2 casters/streamers, in that case im totally ok with it

also with all the fucks ESEA gives about tf2 why the fuck are we STILL streaming with orange and not the tf.tv twitch channel? The stvs are open to anyone are they not?

so whos buying it for 1000.00$ this time?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/3957836919.png

not even sure how my up works, yay canada

Yeah its a huge piss off I'm getting between 3 and 5 a day now, fucking sucks

btw you look like more of an idiot for responding to him then he does for posting it

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