Gonna try, we're still working on the move.

Been 2 years since my ban, about to move into another place, still perma'd. Was registered to a TFCL team but every match was a no show and then the team died. Hoping a new place and new ip will somehow get them to reverse my ban. Any recommendations welcome.

I understand that, but RGL doesn't see it that way. My official ban reason is that I am an alt account, they do not see me and my roommate as 2 separate individuals, they are convinced that I am her. My ban is a consequence of her ban, not the other way around. I'm just pointing out the flaws in their logic when I argue for my roommate.

I have done all that I could possibly physically do to prove that I am a separate person, but they refuse to acknowledge it/state that it's not enough evidence.

But just to say one more time in the most concise fashion I can, I personally, PupsiMax, have nothing to do with the accounts Natista or Dergoo, as they are not me, and they are not accused of being me, they are accused of being my roommate. Natista is my roommate's old account that she played on before moving to the Olivia account, and Dergoo is just a friend of a friend of ours that has seemingly disappeared off the face of the map for nearly 2 years now, with no one being able to contact them.

As my roommate said, though, this is all irrelevant because those accounts are being accused of being my roommate's account, not mine. We've done our best to prove that we are not the same person, and RGL just simply doesn't believe it.

We obviously can't post the evidence we used in the ban appeal since it contains so much sensitive information, maybe if I censored out everything that could get us doxxed? But then I could be accused of withholding evidence or information or something. Maybe it would be enough to prove it would be to pug together? But even then, people could just say that she found someone to play on my account or vice versa. Maybe I could make a YouTube video documenting everything from start to finish and proofread by others? Sure, but it would take so long to make with both of our schedules that it would just be seen as starting up drama, and arcadia said to me directly that doing something like that wouldn't help my case at all. So, whatever.

I literally couldn't tell you, neither of us knew them that well. Literal friend of a friend situation. Going to start to reach out to their old teammates at this point.

No I was pugging. Before anyone said anything about me taking a long time replying to this, arcadia already made their final decision, so I thought thread was just going to die so I stopped checking.

I'm not banned for alting, I'm banned for being an alt account, my roommate is the one that's banned for alting. I assumed that the email that was sent to me regarding the ban was written as if it assumed it was addressing my roommate, and not me, which is why I framed my counterarguments like that.

Either way, both me and my roommate are reachable on discord if either you or NoNoeWay want to talk to us yourselves. I asked her to join this morning.

I wasn't 100% on everything at the time, I found out late at night, and I didn't know how much I wanted to share yet. I can fill in the gaps the best I can with the information I've been told now, but my roommate isn't home right now and some things may be inaccurate.

Nitsta was the original steam account of my roommate, which is why all the competitions on the account are older than the main account. She at one point decided to switch the steam accounts she was using in rgl. She played multiple seasons of prolander and highlander on this new account, and nothing was ever brought up. The Dergoo account is actually neither of us, it's a mutual acquaintance that I met in a discord server my roommate was running at the time, I think it was before 2020? My memory is a little hazy. I'm trying to find if I have any way of contacting them still, but nevertheless they're a completely separate person from me and Krow. I don't know what I can do to prove that it's a different person until I contact them, but I can 100% promise that it's a different person entirely.

Final update everyone <3

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WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SINCE DECEMBER SINCE THIS ALL STARTED. Me and my roommate have both said multiple times that we are willing to talk with anyone directly and get this sorted out, but we kept getting told over and oiver and over again that the inly way to appeal was to submit an appeal form, yet the only way I was even allowed to submit an appeal was because of this very thread. Now they’re saying that 2 other accounts, that weren’t banned initially with me, who have both haven’t entered anything in rgl in at least 3 years, one not being used since 2018, are also her alt accounts.

So like fucking whatever man. Even if these new accounts they’re using as proof were her 2 smurfs, i feel like willingly leaking private docs and showing gameplay of us together is more than enough to prove that me and my account specifically are not her alts, yet still banned.

Edit: It's worth mentioning that me and the 2 new accounts that were banned yesterday are permabanned from rgl and are unable to access the discord or website, while my roommate, the one accused of being an alt, is only banned until June and is still inside the RGL discord. Even if I specifically wanted to approach an RGL staff member directly, I literally do not have the ability to.

I kinda want to be in a group call with my roommate and the AC staff and halfway through walk over to her setup and start talking from there and see if they notice.

Hi everyone! I have a fun update. Just got word back from RGL: the ban won't be lifted. Here's the email I received today.

Here's the accounts listed in the email:

Account 1
Account 2

According to the email, there is a "history of using alternate accounts." So, humor me for a moment, if there's a history of alternate accounts, with these alternate accounts as an example, why are they both inactive, and why do they both only have 1 ban, both of which from today?

Edit: Also of note, if you look back at my roommates account, her only ban listed is the one from christmas day, and the other accounts were banned just today. If she has a history of using these accounts to alt, why were they just banned today, why was she never banned or warned about it before, and why were they banned so much later?

Seems to me like RGL staff were upset that they were wrong and that my appeal was so detailed (it included our lease agreement, my change of address form, our drivers licenses, a picture of us together, gameplay of me and her playing together, and proof that the gameplay took place after the date listed in my change of address form, as well as mail addressed to both of us at the same address.)

Like I'm just so frustrated with this. I've offered to communicate directly with rgl staff the entire time, my account is permanently banned but my roommate's isn't, even if these other 2 accounts that were just banned were her smurfs and she was sandbagging, we've proven that I am a different person anyway, both things can be true, especially since they weren't banned at first. I'm seriously at a loss here. What more can I possibly even do?

Edit 2: Just double checked one of the accounts they sent in the email, Nitsta, every season/cup they played in was before anything on the Krow account. Why is it being brought up now? How could it have been used for sandbagging if it was never used at the same time as the Krow account?

ETA on when I'm getting a response to this? It's been about two weeks now.

The AM team we were both rostered on, Victoria's Secret, was created AFTER she got 2nd in Highlander IM, though it was a prolander team..

Here's my most recent log before I got banned where I go 100 dpm in newbie mixes on demo. I'm for sure a main player though <3

Hilarious to me bc the only criteria I could imagine being met other than our ips matching is both of our accounts being inactive and being on the same roster 4 years ago lmfao, not to mention Arie checking the serveme history and finding nothing to corroborate this. Whatever I'll get my documents and make the appeal, this could've been sorted way faster if you guys were willing to communicate with either of us directly, ESPECIALLY when my roommate reached out to you and other staff directly. Was hoping to be able to play in s14 but oh well!!

Any doubters in the thread, here's both our RGL accounts, decide for yourselves

Mine

Hers

Innocent until proven guilty except for just me I guess.