Good thread YeeHaw.

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People on PugChamp insult each other all the time, but those people usually know each other, play with each other or just in general know how far they can go before friendly banter starts offending the other person. HOWEVER, you can not do that if you're not tight with the other person. By the way, this is how it works in real life as well.

So what you are telling me now is that you started chatting shit to a person you don't know and now you are upset that they got back at you for it? Not only that, but instead of realizing that he did not take it as banter but as offense instead, you decided to press the matter and REWRITE what he deleted? I'm sorry?

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Damn my boy really made this thread just to shit on crayon

For this cup there were way too many games. By sunday I was super tired of playing TF2. I think the lockdown cup earlier this year had a better approach by splitting the invite teams into two groups, especially because the group stage barely matters anyway.

Apart from that I suppose cups should be held every 6 months maybe (if the no LAN period goes on). I think if they happen too often they are gonna lose their appeal and nobody is gonna sign up.

Demoman is already devastatingly powerful early mid. It shouldn't be 100% consistent, because a fast demoman can already get two stickies off before the pressuring scout is even able to jump up the wooden wall.

We don't have any data on this but it should be quite the opposite because now you don't have to overextend as much if you want to spam a sentry from balcony.

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Winger
As someone that used the Winger for alternate flank routes, this plugin just made it way worse than the default pistol. That roughly 1-2 seconds it adds to get anywhere is just not worth giving up all the firepower the stock pistol offers. From my experience playing Soldier, it barely ever was a problem except in one situation: you and the scout are low HP and he starts Winger jumping backwards while shooting you, which is still possible by the way. I think just make it do no damage at all. To stop the people abusing scripts, just make the swap back to other weapons slower instead, if that is even possible.

Gunboats always apply
I think this plugin is fine, but it definitely needs some adjusting. Before it was scouts torpedoing into soldiers so they kill themselves - now it's Soldiers going kamikaze mode, jumping onto people and point blanking them.

Med scout speed
It's too early to say anything about the flow of the game. Teams are inconsistent and still trying out a lot of stuff. The real test is W1 and W2. People will play more carefully in officials and that will show us how much the pace of the game has changed. Apart from that, it did nerf pocket scouts and focussed spam on doors is more powerful now because the medic can't walk in at mach 10. I don't mind this plugin at all, but I have to agree with klassy. I feel like playing a different TF2 than other regions doesn't makes sense long term, even if an international LAN is unlikely.