While I personally feel the move ups would develop faster and possibly be able to compete with mid IM as the season progressed if they were in IM. I can see where you're coming from, so to each his own.

Lmao, totally ignored the first paragraph on their team page. Simply saw "S22-Int Roster: (tbd)". Goes to show the importance of reading.

I dont think merging IM and open is the more likely option though, regardless of the move up (which tri did say they were considering) or not, both IM and open have enough teams to be good divisions on their own.

so if there's 18, move ups make sense then right?

I think 5/8 are alive, chefs might be dead, and i think

If i'm right, Move ups would be
Egg Salad
Not Around Bears
Westbrook
Chefs?
*Dieextracrispy (stole the yompies roster already though)
*arstotzka (bote 6v6 could use the roster if they wanted to IM)

Dead Teams
Snailed it
Young Hunters
Creative Juices
team name tbd
The baddies
hands off
*Slammin Salmon (still a lot rostered, but top comment is RIP, are they dead?)
*Yompies (im assuming would die if diextracrispy got moved up, since they wouldn't have to deal with hijack rules)

So currently there are 17-18 teams and there would be 20-22 depending on if chefs or salmon are dead during moveups. Move ups would leave 39-41 open teams, although that's only including teams with 1 paid up in open.

Basically, my thoughts are if Salmon are dead and there's only 17 teams, doing the move up doesn't make sense because each IM team should play each other once in a 17 team division. If slammin salmon (or any of the other dead teams) are alive (and no other teams die), they may as well do the move ups since it couldn't be a system of every team plays each other once. To me, keeping 17 teams is the only good argument to not do the move ups.

On the argument of developing better in open than IM, I'd actually disagree with that. They'll either roll low/mid open teams, or get rolled by high IM teams. Scrims are where they'll develop and odds are they'll be scrimming IM teams anyways, may as well play in the division at that point.

**note, the only open playoff team I didn't consider is bshears ponytail since no one is paid up. They do cover the hijack rule though. As a new team they might just want to play open**

edit:

To grow the league would it not be beneficial to grow the number of IM rosters? More move ups-> more living rosters -> bigger IM division? Open continues to get a number of teams (and I can only hope matchmaking boosts that further), so in theory growing IM is what would be needed for there to be a reason for main.

same.

Brutalix

so then move up the bottom 8 teams this year, at least the live ones, then move up top 8 next season and hopefully have enough to make main?

Maybe its time to....BRING BACK MAIN

It's been an emotional roller coaster following the raptors. One game they can't hit shit, next game they destroy the heat... hopefully Kyle Lowry is out of his slump for good. Lowry and Derozan need to be top notch to stand a chance against Cleveland. Hopefully Valanciunas will return soon, but this is probably end of the line for Toronto.

How'd they do against the Cavs in the regular season?

So my Jays are off to a great start... It would be great if we had a functioning bullpen, Storen and Cecil have fallen off a cliff.

How's your teams season going?

Also fuck rougned Odor. (http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/blue-jays-and-rangers-brawl-completely-ignore-game-1776771655)

What's concerning is that, while it only shows teams from last season, some of the open teams should be in IM based on tri's post from a week ago, but still havent been moved up, such as not around bears.

Has ESEA changed their minds again, or will the moveups actually happen?

NOTHING WILL CHANGE DOG2 IS FOREVER

I honestly wouldn't have thought a team with both Kari Lehtonen and Antti Niemi would have massive goalie issues. I guess it's not 2010 anymore

Brensonian hype

Lets go dog2

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