man, I didn't say my opinion but I was trying to give you a good argument to keep it whilst also complimenting your skill with it, along with gazy pyro, josh/nubbi and hugo/opti banner combos. Instead you ignore it and can't come up with any good reasoning yourself.

You should realise if you want to keep the weapon unbanned you will have to do some work since most of the good EU players want it banned. So by relating it to a oneshot mechanic and relating it to sniper, noone is going to agree with banning it. Now you just ruined a decent simplified argument to counter coherent top prem players like papi by memeing on it.

Some reasonable arguments being made for banning but none for keeping it in. The weapons is overpowered AND annoying because it can oneshot basically any class in standard 6s. This is a completely reasonable argument.

Trying to argue that it isn't overpowered is the wrong way to go around it, instead you can consider the skill aspect of the weapon, or the interactivity between opposing teams. Is the skill of hitting a market garden higher or lower than an airshot or bombing a medic? Is there less or more interactivity between teams based on the oneshot mechanic?

In this one case, it is clear there is lower interactivity between teams making it frustrating to go against, and honestly play with someone messing around with it too. The skill aspect is probably an even thing between standard rocket launcher bombs and market gardens, I'm not one to judge that since I don't play soldier. However I don't feel outplayed when I get market gardened as a medic, and I don't feel I outplayed the enemy when I dodge one (I just feel like they missed).

An actual argument about keeping the weapon is that we finally got a season where top teams are using different weapons/classes to a decent level. We can finally talk about actual things like banners, mantreads, pyro, market gardener with good ideas and feedback about it with seeing how people actually feel about the weapons. Further testing is a good thing to properly understand the weapons when this thread showcases that very few people actually understand them.

One extra point is that if the oneshot mechanic is what makes it worth being banned, then we have to consider sniper/spy too and whether we ban them too.

True, I was getting too angry, hope they do better without me. GL

Also another disclaimer: I am not from the virgin islands

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Meant suppression not cancelling mb but can always mess with accessories to reduce problems

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I enjoyed screaming at pre-pubescent teenagers and so here I am.

I have a feeling there is a major miscommunication between us. I think aoshi hasn't wanted to do this job for about 3 years now. I don't really want to say why I think this. Nonetheless he persevered and continued. My original comment is designed to tell other staff members that they do not have to continue if they do not want to, and to consider themselves first. I think there are quite a few who get an unreasonable amount of hate and if they are negatively affected should stop doing the work.

One thing I feel strongly about is how it shouldn't be viewed negatively to be angry at someone making a mistake. It's a completely reasonable human response to be angry. This thread is a shining example of how that anger is being villainised. The first thought should be how to not make the mistake instead of how to not be angry at someone making a mistake. From my point of view, the staff members in general do not think about how to not make the mistake, but rather pin the blame on the community for being angry.

A lot of people (not necessarily saying league/tftv staff think this way, just in general) view any criticism as being an asshole towards them. Is a very fine line. Also much constructive criticism is completely ignored, not even acknowledged, just ignored because of who it came from.

Whilst I agree people are overly abusive, there is a reason, the admin team makes many mistakes (personally I disagree with well over half the decisions they make) and they don't own their mistakes, they don't follow their own rules to a T, have very low understanding in player skill level, allow friends to sandbag relentlessly season after season, pussyfoot around to try to appease both teams instead of supporting the team in the right.

The admin team is there to be the faceless organisation that referees players matches. In a competitive game where one team will have to be viewed more favourably for every quarrel that occurs, you will annoy half the people playing. It is inevitable. That is a simple problem with the competitive nature in games. Happens in all sports everywhere.

It is a misinterpretation, since he could still do the job but just didn't want to. The BS wasn't preventing anything was just making it annoying for him to continue, I completely understand not wanting to do this job, it seems awful.

It is completely fair for anyone in any position of power to be expected to have a higher maturity level and be held to a higher standard than the rest of the population. This is true for any position in life. If they don't have that level, then they won't get the respect they need to reduce toxicity and abuse.

Of course, but I didn't. Nor did I criticise them for not being able to handle it. I've said many times I don't know why they do it, I've always related things to how I think and what I feel from my outside perspective as someone who doesn't flame admins, but also doesn't partake in their own decisions. I know I wouldn't do it for the same reason many others wouldn't. Too much work for too little reward.

Plenty of therapists give advice on how to handle feelings. Most of them will ask how the person feels and get the person to actually know how they fell. They won't tell them it's right or wrong, but they will give advice on how to handle real life scenarios that make them feel in an undesirable way. This is what I did. I never ordered anyone to do anything, just gave some advice.

Hopefully I explained why everything in your comment was wrong shoosh.

If Ire stopped doing most of the NA management then the public face (streaming/writing) would be greatly affected until someone else takes over. If noone does take over then it will remain permanently haemorrhaged.This isn't a problem, it is just how it is. The only problem is staff members mindset that makes them think it is one. As a player I cannot expect people to do the amount of work they do for free, but they choose to, which is insane to me.

I kinda like how aoshi called out a lot of bad behaviour, but I also don't. To me it seems like it is something the community needs to hear, but I also think the staff members should be mature enough themselves to move past the hate.

It feels like the staff members are instead of doing what will make them happy, are trying to keep a dieing game alive desperately thinking they are the only ones who can save it, blaming the community for either their own shortcomings or natural progression.

Whilst I do appreciate what etf2l admins and tftv streaming staff do for the EU scene and I also call out people who immaturely bad mouth some of the hard workers, noone who takes on these positions should ever feel forced to. Any admin or caster or streamer or anything is a volunteer and if you aren't enjoying it, don't do it. Get a hobby you enjoy. Someone who wants to take over should, not someone who feels forced to.

I get the feeling from quite a few people that they don't enjoy being in the public eye from most of the immature people who play the game, but i still don't know why they do it.

This is also fixed by people not being stupid cunts, but that is more of an entire humanity thing rather than just this community.

torrit please im in serious trouble now