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pharaoh killing na tf2. your move permzilla

It'll be popular
It'll be polished
It'll be good
I'll buy it
I'll play it
I'll probably have fun too

But it isn't what I was hoping it would be and there's no chance I'll dump 4k hours into it like I did for TF2.
Got my hopes up and now I'm sad :(

If they can't be bothered to check the options menu then they're probably not serious enough to appreciate the benefits customizing can give them. But why would you ever want to bring your serious players down to the level of the lazy and casual ones? That doesn't make for a good game. That line of reasoning is almost word for word the same as Sakurai's when he made Brawl different from Melee, and see how that turned out.

I agree with this. Unlike bigger esports, when you're casting TF2 your audience is gonna consist of a lot of experienced players/spectators who've watched and played a lot of the game. So it's a lot more obvious to us if you're unaware of certain aspects of the game than it might be to another scene. From what I've seen you've got all the technical aspects of casting down though, so play to your strengths and let a co-caster cover the weak spots. You do fine

I only watch CSGO but as far as I can tell the only real difference between it and TF2 6s is pacing. CSGO is more about team tactics and TF2 is more about tech skill like aim and movement, but they're both about both.

CSGO snipers have to be fast to avoid getting killed.
TF2 snipers have to be precise in order to get their pick without alerting the enemy team to their player advantage. And when they're getting attacked they have to be precise enough to hit the head and fast enough to avoid getting killed.

pretty sure TF2 sniping is harder but that's not supposed to diss CSGO. It's just a different game with less emphasis on that kind of stuff.

how did you even find that many people to shoot

3 main factors stand between players directly competing against each other on even ground: team play, game knowledge, and technical skill.

CS and TF2 6s=Tech Skill and Team Play over Game Knowledge
Quake=Tech Skill and Game Knowledge over Team Play
MOBAs=Game Knowledge and Team Play over Tech Skill

In order to compete competently and directly against the other player, you need to develop proficiency in the requisite factors until you're able to operate comfortably in the arena of the game.

I think Game Knowledge is the least desirable trait. Less is more, and an intuitive, easy to understand game is a lot more fun to play and learn than one that artificially inflates its Game Knowledge requirements tenfold. But if MOBAs didn't have enormous amounts of Game Knowledge to learn then they'd basically be glorified board games. This doesn't mean they aren't competitive or difficult, just that I think they're needlessly complicated and slow.

And to the average player, MOBAs are easy. You don't need 100 hours of practice to reliably hit your enemy, and anyone can learn the rules (read: all the heroes and items and stuff) eventually. It's this appeal to the average gamer that's causing devs to shit them out left and right in all shapes and sizes. But they're all really still the same type of game. Lots of breadth, little depth.

I can't follow the logic in this at all. If all the FPS experience on the TF2 side didn't mean anything then that sounds to me like the game doesn't emphasize FPS skills like movement and aim at all. I don't know jack shit about CS:GO but I can still go into a game and do well because I can aim a gun. Same for Quake. If I can't do the same in Overwatch then I assume those skills just aren't important. And if those skills aren't important, how can he call the game 'fast and diverse?' It doesn't get much faster than an arena shooter and diversity comes from the number of ways to play a character, not how many characters there are to play. And I don't even know what to make of the implication that you can win FPS games just by clicking on people without ever understanding the game. Everything he said reinforces my initial impressions of it being moba-like, except somehow muselk comes to the opposite conclusion.

All in all I can't TAKE his RECOMMENDATION very SERIOUSLY because hes so OVER THE TOP with the CAPSLOCK and CANT find ANYTHING about the GAME worth CRITICIZING. Comes across as super disingenuous and brown-nosey

I tried it at PAX prime and got a closed beta key cuz ESEA premium. I haven't played as much as I could have but I think it's pretty fun. A friend told me he didn't like what they did to the Legacy of Cain game's lore, but I haven't played them so I don't know.

I really feel like the game would benefit a lot from some well designed and distinct maps. There are only a few places across all the original maps that were recognizable, like the docks on Freeport or the firepit on Valeholm (I think, can't remember). The Fane is a really cool map but it still feels mostly like a maze of buildings.

Can we stop calling shit like this 'content'? That way when I see a thread like this I can get excited again

It's nice to see that some of the CSGO players know about comp tf2 and like it. Makes it hurt so much more that we don't get any support

RIP

ONE MORE BABY

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