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Honeysuckle | by Jay
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3qXwEP5tY&list=UUVXUz1e_fQ_NFHytWH615OQ

Hope you enjoy this new edit. I tried some new things, tried to make it a little different. I understand it is very over-edited, but overall I'm very happy with what I have done.
Please feel free to leave criticism/thoughts in the comments below.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3qXwEP5tY&list=UUVXUz1e_fQ_NFHytWH615OQ[/youtube]
Hope you enjoy this new edit. I tried some new things, tried to make it a little different. I understand it is very over-edited, but overall I'm very happy with what I have done.
Please feel free to leave criticism/thoughts in the comments below.
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#2
2 Frags +

woah..

woah..
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#3
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dude

dude
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#4
2 Frags +

god damn

god damn
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#5
0 Frags +

pure pictures always delivering

pure pictures always delivering
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#6
39 Frags +

goose out of nowhere

goose out of nowhere
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#7
6 Frags +

not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?

not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?
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#8
2 Frags +

huh it kinda reminds me of css editing

huh it kinda reminds me of css editing
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#9
0 Frags +

http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/chansub-global-emoticon-c8a77ec0c49976d3-22x30.png

[img]http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/chansub-global-emoticon-c8a77ec0c49976d3-22x30.png[/img]
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#10
4 Frags +
Allealgoose out of nowhere

could be worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65gW1_s8mE#t=2m35s

i like the video, but the color correction really needs to be toned down. keep up the good work!

[quote=Alleal]goose out of nowhere[/quote]

could be worse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65gW1_s8mE#t=2m35s


i like the video, but the color correction really needs to be toned down. keep up the good work!
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#11
11 Frags +

oh I get it, you want us to imagine the frags, ok.

oh I get it, you want us to imagine the frags, ok.
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#12
5 Frags +
ikpurenot taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?

i've never understood people who say shit like this

if you want to see the frags, why are you watching an edit at all? watch a fragshow, there are SO many of them

an edit is for the editor, it's about making something that looks sick regardless of what happens in the original demo, which is why googler is the best tf2 editor there is

edit: i think i misrepresented my point here. what i'm trying to say is, edits like this are allowed to exist. people like me absolutely enjoy them more than videos based around the frags, because after seeing a million different headshots and air-rockets already, i'm not interested. you can have your preference too, but don't complain about overedits every fucking time a video of this type comes out

[quote=ikpure]not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?[/quote]

i've never understood people who say shit like this

if you want to see the frags, why are you watching an edit at all? watch a fragshow, there are SO many of them

an edit is for the editor, it's about making something that looks sick regardless of what happens in the original demo, which is why googler is the best tf2 editor there is

edit: i think i misrepresented my point here. what i'm trying to say is, edits like this are allowed to exist. people like me absolutely enjoy them more than videos based around the frags, because after seeing a million different headshots and air-rockets already, i'm not interested. you can have your preference too, but don't complain about overedits every fucking time a video of this type comes out
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#13
3 Frags +

fuck canada geese

fuck canada geese
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#14
11 Frags +

OH MY GOD THE JET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NpqY5nHKkw

OH MY GOD THE JET
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NpqY5nHKkw[/youtube]
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#15
8 Frags +
Snowdreamstuff

if he is going to use pure's intro he has to work to pure's expectations

[quote=Snowdream]stuff[/quote]
if he is going to use pure's intro he has to work to pure's expectations
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#16
4 Frags +
ikpurenot taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?

Inspired by everyone. Just because I am over-editing does not mean that I am taking after Googler. I over-edited to showcase what I can do with simply a couple clips at hand. Regardless, thank you for your input.

[quote=ikpure]not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?[/quote]

Inspired by everyone. Just because I am over-editing does not mean that I am taking after Googler. I over-edited to showcase what I can do with simply a couple clips at hand. Regardless, thank you for your input.
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#17
3 Frags +

You can't really compare this to a "frag vid." It's an entirely different thing. I think it worked well at what it was going for, and I would certainly watch more if you continued making them at this quality.

You can't really compare this to a "frag vid." It's an entirely different thing. I think it worked well at what it was going for, and I would certainly watch more if you continued making them at this quality.
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#18
5 Frags +

well to be fair, it is a video with frags in it. i mean, that's why it's even called a frag video in the first place.

well to be fair, it is a video with frags in it. i mean, that's why it's even called a frag video in the first place.
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#19
2 Frags +
JayDeFluerikpurenot taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?

Inspired by everyone. Just because I am over-editing does not mean that I am taking after Googler. I over-edited to showcase what I can do with simply a couple clips at hand. Regardless, thank you for your input.

Sorry I should have gave you some criticism. The difference between this and a good video depends on the editor's knowledge of when and where to use certain effects. It just seemed like you were spamming effects and overlays into a short video as if to tell me hey look I can do this and this and look at this goose meanwhile the whole video ends up looking like crap. It didn't flow well, believe me because I've made similar mistakes in the past. You were adjusting the velocity to cover up the fact that most of your smooths were actually really bad. Good luck, keep at it.

[quote=JayDeFluer][quote=ikpure]not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?[/quote]

Inspired by everyone. Just because I am over-editing does not mean that I am taking after Googler. I over-edited to showcase what I can do with simply a couple clips at hand. Regardless, thank you for your input.[/quote]

Sorry I should have gave you some criticism. The difference between this and a good video depends on the editor's knowledge of when and where to use certain effects. It just seemed like you were spamming effects and overlays into a short video as if to tell me hey look I can do this and this and look at this goose meanwhile the whole video ends up looking like crap. It didn't flow well, believe me because I've made similar mistakes in the past. You were adjusting the velocity to cover up the fact that most of your smooths were actually really bad. Good luck, keep at it.
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#20
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The smooths were really fucking cool, with the exception of the thirdperson at :35 and the clipping at :45.

The smooths were really fucking cool, with the exception of the thirdperson at :35 and the clipping at :45.
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#21
5 Frags +
Snowdreamikpurenot taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?

i've never understood people who say shit like this

if you want to see the frags, why are you watching an edit at all? watch a fragshow, there are SO many of them

an edit is for the editor, it's about making something that looks sick regardless of what happens in the original demo, which is why googler is the best tf2 editor there is

Yea if I wanted to see a lame frag show I'd watch one of your videos that you call "edits". I have nothing against over editing if it is done right (e.g. cla) but there was plenty wrong with this.

googler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it. Ask him to make a good 7-8 minute video without giving the viewer a headache and/or seizure. He is far from the best. If you really wanna talk about who the best is I suggest you look at some of torn production's works and maybe watch bones' lan trilogy.

[quote=Snowdream][quote=ikpure]not taking any applications but that goose doe

tone down your editing a bit I can't see shit... inspired by googler?[/quote]

i've never understood people who say shit like this

if you want to see the frags, why are you watching an edit at all? watch a fragshow, there are SO many of them

an edit is for the editor, it's about making something that looks sick regardless of what happens in the original demo, which is why [b]googler is the best tf2 editor there is[/b] [/quote]

Yea if I wanted to see a lame frag show I'd watch one of your videos that you call "edits". I have nothing against over editing if it is done right (e.g. cla) but there was plenty wrong with this.

googler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it. Ask him to make a good 7-8 minute video without giving the viewer a headache and/or seizure. He is far from the best. If you really wanna talk about who the best is I suggest you look at some of torn production's works and maybe watch bones' lan trilogy.
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ikpureYea if I wanted to see a lame frag show I'd watch one of your videos that you call "edits".

i didn't bring up your videos, nor did i say mine were anything more than trash

ikpure I have nothing against over editing if it is done right (e.g. cla)

cla does not nearly overedit

ikpuregoogler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it.

"knowledge of effects"? he has better flow, smooths, creativity and even sound editing than most tf2 editors on youtube

ikpure Ask him to make a good 7-8 minute video without giving the viewer a headache and/or seizure.

7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache

ikpureHe is far from the best. If you really wanna talk about who the best is I suggest you look at some of torn production's works and maybe watch bones' lan trilogy.

once again, you're arguing for something else entirely. these types of video are for showcasing the frags

[quote=ikpure]Yea if I wanted to see a lame frag show I'd watch one of your videos that you call "edits".[/quote]
i didn't bring up your videos, nor did i say mine were anything more than trash

[quote=ikpure] I have nothing against over editing if it is done right [b](e.g. cla)[/b][/quote]
cla does not [b]nearly[/b] overedit

[quote=ikpure]googler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it.[/quote]
"knowledge of effects"? he has better flow, smooths, creativity and even sound editing than most tf2 editors on youtube

[quote=ikpure] Ask him to make a good 7-8 minute video without giving the viewer a headache and/or seizure.[/quote]
7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache

[quote=ikpure]
He is far from the best. If you really wanna talk about who the best is I suggest you look at some of torn production's works and maybe watch bones' lan trilogy.[/quote]
once again, you're arguing for something else entirely. these types of video are for showcasing the frags
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#23
3 Frags +
cla does not nearly overedit

yes he does. it's not a whole lot, but there are moments in his videos that could go without being how they are.

7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVveOcKQ6BQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHiQhmcc78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wtleMbPI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENruOrM01CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCpAuxrQ_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xR-7122x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHHtEZWBJqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF3ggAKwiOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzjcSHuGhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs0abj0e3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaTX5pP274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEKhiX5J8

i'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.

[quote]cla does not nearly overedit[/quote]

yes he does. it's not a whole lot, but there are moments in his videos that could go without being how they are.

[quote]7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVveOcKQ6BQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHiQhmcc78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wtleMbPI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENruOrM01CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCpAuxrQ_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xR-7122x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHHtEZWBJqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF3ggAKwiOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzjcSHuGhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs0abj0e3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaTX5pP274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEKhiX5J8

i'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.
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#24
1 Frags +

I think it should be morn' instead if mourn. Other than that it's a pretty piece.

I think it should be morn' instead if mourn. Other than that it's a pretty piece.
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#25
1 Frags +

Showcasing an edit on tf2 tv is NOT a good idea.

When ikpure say "tone down your editing" it was just because jay didn't made the best and used to useless effects instead of focusing on the general feel and where to place those said effects.

not that he should be "showcasing" the frag or editing less.

kirby7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVveOcKQ6BQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHiQhmcc78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wtleMbPI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENruOrM01CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCpAuxrQ_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xR-7122x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHHtEZWBJqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF3ggAKwiOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzjcSHuGhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs0abj0e3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaTX5pP274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEKhiX5J8

i'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.

on the other side im okay with this, because it's not as hardly vfx edited doesn't mean it's more "boring"

Showcasing an edit on tf2 tv is NOT a good idea.

When ikpure say "tone down your editing" it was just because jay didn't made the best and used to useless effects instead of focusing on the general feel and where to place those said effects.

not that he should be "showcasing" the frag or editing less.
[quote=kirby]

[quote]7-8 minutes? boring, i'll take the headache[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVveOcKQ6BQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CHiQhmcc78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wtleMbPI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENruOrM01CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fCpAuxrQ_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xR-7122x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHHtEZWBJqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF3ggAKwiOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzjcSHuGhQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs0abj0e3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaTX5pP274
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctEKhiX5J8

i'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.[/quote]

on the other side im okay with this, because it's not as hardly vfx edited doesn't mean it's more "boring"
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#26
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AwakeWhen ikpure say "tone down your editing" it was just because jay didn't made the best and used to useless effects instead of focusing on the general feel and where to place those said effects.

i don't think it's that's he's using useless effects and stuff. it's more that the effects he's using are kinda in-your-face - they're overbearing. most good editors like cla, otis w/e use a ton of small effects (ones that you probably wouldn't notice/acknowledge unless you looked for them) that gradually build up the 'feel' of the video.

[quote=Awake]
When ikpure say "tone down your editing" it was just because jay didn't made the best and used to useless effects instead of focusing on the general feel and where to place those said effects.
[/quote]

i don't think it's that's he's using useless effects and stuff. it's more that the effects he's using are kinda in-your-face - they're overbearing. most good editors like cla, otis w/e use a ton of small effects (ones that you probably wouldn't notice/acknowledge unless you looked for them) that gradually build up the 'feel' of the video.
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#27
tf2pickup.org
3 Frags +

It would be better if it would go more with music also ingame sounds would help
also this scene

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66306366/ilikeit.JPG

first time i see that kind rl footage in tf2 edit,it fits and i like it a lot. Colorcorection is good, Music is pretty nice (if u can provide the artist i would like to check this out). Idea with narration in the beginning is setting nice tone and feel to rest of the clip which is dope. I hate this overlay at 0:35 and that 0:36 fx (Vegas is poor in this kind of stuff).

but hey what do I know right? anyway good job looking forward to see more of these in future.

It would be better if it would go more with music also ingame sounds would help
also this scene [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66306366/ilikeit.JPG[/img] first time i see that kind rl footage in tf2 edit,it fits and i like it a lot. Colorcorection is good, Music is pretty nice (if u can provide the artist i would like to check this out). Idea with narration in the beginning is setting nice tone and feel to rest of the clip which is dope. I hate this overlay at 0:35 and that 0:36 fx (Vegas is poor in this kind of stuff).

but hey what do I know right? anyway good job looking forward to see more of these in future.
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#28
1 Frags +

If you sync to every single beat in the song, it loses its impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNHxlX8cCw

If you sync to every single beat in the song, it loses its impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNHxlX8cCw
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#29
-6 Frags +

dat bird do

dat bird do
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#30
-1 Frags +
Snowdreamikpuregoogler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it."knowledge of effects"? he has better flow, smooths, creativity and even sound editing than most tf2 editors on youtube

Tbh Googlers smooths are quite uninspired and bad, they flow well, but its getting boring, kinda like his edits lately, imo he peaked at Segway 3 and then its gone downhill. If youre looking for best smooths look at ikay himself, he has an eye for those.

kirbyi'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.

Sorry mate, but all of those videos with the exception of 1 or 2 are pretty damn boring to me.

As for Jays video, I agree that some of the effects were quite unfitting, what I like about your style the most is your velocity, its something new and good, but you need to perfect it still, because the slow parts sometimes last too long. The goose was a bit random but im okay with it, plus the idea was very original, so yeah. Good luck with future edits.

[quote=Snowdream][quote=ikpure]googler is good when it comes to knowledge of effects but that is really about it.[/quote]
"knowledge of effects"? he has better flow, smooths, creativity and even sound editing than most tf2 editors on youtube[/quote]
Tbh Googlers smooths are quite uninspired and bad, they flow well, but its getting boring, kinda like his edits lately, imo he peaked at Segway 3 and then its gone downhill. If youre looking for best smooths look at ikay himself, he has an eye for those.

[quote=kirby]i'm not sure you understand what "boring" means.[/quote]
Sorry mate, but all of those videos with the exception of 1 or 2 are pretty damn boring to me.

As for Jays video, I agree that some of the effects were quite unfitting, what I like about your style the most is your velocity, its something new and good, but you need to perfect it still, because the slow parts sometimes last too long. The goose was a bit random but im okay with it, plus the idea was very original, so yeah. Good luck with future edits.
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