http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/439352/
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this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.
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why is flat textures blocked by sv_pure
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http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/439352/
(edit: goto the link and scroll down to the bottom screenshots)
time to whip out the pretyped paragraph and send it to robin again, amirite?
this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.
(edit: goto the link and scroll down to the bottom screenshots)
time to whip out the pretyped paragraph and send it to robin again, amirite?
this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.
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MR_SLINdo you mind sharing these?
did you still want them i wish they would work in 6s match but i will still link them
if you stil want them
m[quote=MR_SLIN]do you mind sharing these?[/quote]
did you still want them i wish they would work in 6s match but i will still link them
if you stil want them
did you still want them i wish they would work in 6s match but i will still link them
if you stil want them
turtsmcgurtshttp://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/439352/
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time to whip out the pretyped paragraph and send it to robin again, amirite?
this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.
yeah comp texture for quake is what it was going for
[quote=turtsmcgurts]http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/439352/
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time to whip out the pretyped paragraph and send it to robin again, amirite?
this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.[/quote]
yeah comp texture for quake is what it was going for
(edit: goto the link and scroll down to the bottom screenshots)
time to whip out the pretyped paragraph and send it to robin again, amirite?
this is what "low settings" should look like, I think.[/quote]
yeah comp texture for quake is what it was going for
blinKYou can't use flat textures like that because it gives you a clear advantage over your opponent. You should be playing with the same settings as your opponent in a competition.
sv_pure wasn't made to prevent texture mods like this. It was made to prevent texture mods like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA
(Ignore the fact that it's a 4 year old poorly recorded laggy as shit video)
A pure server is one that forces all clients on the server to use content that matches what is on the server. This prevents cheating by modifying game content, e.g. increasing the size of models or volume of footsteps, or making wall materials transparent.
The only thing that would really be affected would be sticky traps in areas that are purposely hard to see. In a sense, making everything flat in Q3 or other similar games does the same thing; it increases visibility, meaning you won't get kills/advantages because the game is visually "busy", but rather because you outplayed your opponent, etc.
[quote=blinK]You can't use flat textures like that because it gives you a clear advantage over your opponent. You should be playing with the same settings as your opponent in a competition.[/quote]
sv_pure wasn't made to prevent texture mods like this. It was made to prevent texture mods like this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA[/youtube][b]
(Ignore the fact that it's a 4 year old poorly recorded laggy as shit video)[/b]
[quote]A pure server is one that forces all clients on the server to use content that matches what is on the server. This prevents cheating by modifying game content, e.g. increasing the size of models or volume of footsteps, or making wall materials transparent.[/quote]
The only thing that would really be affected would be sticky traps in areas that are purposely hard to see. In a sense, making everything flat in Q3 or other similar games does the same thing; it increases visibility, meaning you won't get kills/advantages because the game is visually "busy", but rather because you outplayed your opponent, etc.
sv_pure wasn't made to prevent texture mods like this. It was made to prevent texture mods like this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA[/youtube][b]
(Ignore the fact that it's a 4 year old poorly recorded laggy as shit video)[/b]
[quote]A pure server is one that forces all clients on the server to use content that matches what is on the server. This prevents cheating by modifying game content, e.g. increasing the size of models or volume of footsteps, or making wall materials transparent.[/quote]
The only thing that would really be affected would be sticky traps in areas that are purposely hard to see. In a sense, making everything flat in Q3 or other similar games does the same thing; it increases visibility, meaning you won't get kills/advantages because the game is visually "busy", but rather because you outplayed your opponent, etc.
if it was made to block stuff like that why cant they just let it through for people to use say the flat textures
if it was made to block stuff like that why cant they just let it through for people to use say the flat textures
brownymasterAnarchyif it was made to block stuff like that why cant they just let it through for people to use say the flat texturesI feel like you don't understand what you would need to do to check it (read the imagine file and check that every pixel is a certain RGB), and either way it adds the question why can't I mod it to be not flat? What flat colors are allowed? Why can't we make player model textures flat colors? What if checkered provided a better advantage than flat colors? Will you make the image parser allow gradients and what not?
And by that point maps become customizable and becomes harder to draw any limits.
I feel like you don't understand how important clutter is for games that aren't quake. For example, take a Battlefield 2 game or more recent. Can you imagine if every playermodel was a bright color and all the walls were gray? Would be immensely easy to see and aim at people because they tend to blend in much more than bright colors on some static gray or something. Hell, it's even possible to miss a hiding soldier on his side of the map sometimes because he blends in with the color of the wall. A lot of TF2 classes thrive on chaos, like visual clutter, to do well. Spies depend on people being visually busy to kill someone. Any class can get great flanks because of visual focus on other enemies/projectiles (providing chaos). Even in a game like CS 1.6, you could hide in the shadow and kill someone who couldn't see you clearly. Games don't allow whitewalling for a reason. This isn't quake.
very good point
[quote=brownymaster][quote=Anarchy]if it was made to block stuff like that why cant they just let it through for people to use say the flat textures[/quote]
I feel like you don't understand what you would need to do to check it (read the imagine file and check that every pixel is a certain RGB), and either way it adds the question why can't I mod it to be not flat? What flat colors are allowed? Why can't we make player model textures flat colors? What if checkered provided a better advantage than flat colors? Will you make the image parser allow gradients and what not?
And by that point maps become customizable and becomes harder to draw any limits.
I feel like you don't understand how important clutter is for games that aren't quake. For example, take a Battlefield 2 game or more recent. Can you imagine if every playermodel was a bright color and all the walls were gray? Would be immensely easy to see and aim at people because they tend to blend in much more than bright colors on some static gray or something. Hell, it's even possible to miss a hiding soldier on his side of the map sometimes because he blends in with the color of the wall. A lot of TF2 classes thrive on chaos, like visual clutter, to do well. Spies depend on people being visually busy to kill someone. Any class can get great flanks because of visual focus on other enemies/projectiles (providing chaos). Even in a game like CS 1.6, you could hide in the shadow and kill someone who couldn't see you clearly. Games don't allow whitewalling for a reason. This isn't quake.[/quote]
very good point
I feel like you don't understand what you would need to do to check it (read the imagine file and check that every pixel is a certain RGB), and either way it adds the question why can't I mod it to be not flat? What flat colors are allowed? Why can't we make player model textures flat colors? What if checkered provided a better advantage than flat colors? Will you make the image parser allow gradients and what not?
And by that point maps become customizable and becomes harder to draw any limits.
I feel like you don't understand how important clutter is for games that aren't quake. For example, take a Battlefield 2 game or more recent. Can you imagine if every playermodel was a bright color and all the walls were gray? Would be immensely easy to see and aim at people because they tend to blend in much more than bright colors on some static gray or something. Hell, it's even possible to miss a hiding soldier on his side of the map sometimes because he blends in with the color of the wall. A lot of TF2 classes thrive on chaos, like visual clutter, to do well. Spies depend on people being visually busy to kill someone. Any class can get great flanks because of visual focus on other enemies/projectiles (providing chaos). Even in a game like CS 1.6, you could hide in the shadow and kill someone who couldn't see you clearly. Games don't allow whitewalling for a reason. This isn't quake.[/quote]
very good point
People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
blinKPeople, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
[quote=blinK]People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
domoblinKPeople, come on now.honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
while the fps thing is true, blinky does have a point.
it wouldn't be fair unless valve made these textures and option for everyone, so that it remains a level playing feild.
[quote=domo][quote=blinK]People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
while the fps thing is true, blinky does have a point.
it wouldn't be fair unless valve made these textures and option for everyone, so that it remains a level playing feild.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
while the fps thing is true, blinky does have a point.
it wouldn't be fair unless valve made these textures and option for everyone, so that it remains a level playing feild.
domoblinKPeople, come on now.honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
If you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.
[quote=domo][quote=blinK]People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
If you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
If you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.
DeRobertCdomoIf you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.blinKPeople, come on now.honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.
simple option unblock them and if people want to download they can! open to everyone by choice.
[quote=DeRobertC][quote=domo][quote=blinK]People, come on now.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
If you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.[/quote]
simple option unblock them and if people want to download they can! open to everyone by choice.
What is the main reason to using these textures? To see easier. OBVIOUSLY.
Do you really need to ask why they're banned? Do you really think it's fair if you're using them while other people aren't? Don't tell me you want to use them just for 'personal preference'.
We went through the same shit in TFC. It 100% helps your aim and especially awareness using textures like that and if you don't think so then there's something wrong with you. It's as simple as that. I'm so glad source has sv_pure.[/quote]
honestly im thinking its actually for higher FPS for a lot of people...[/quote]
If you think about it, higher FPS makes it easier to see. So it would still be to see easier.[/quote]
simple option unblock them and if people want to download they can! open to everyone by choice.
But then it dumbs the game down even more than it already is. Makes hiding and flanking a lot less useful on top of other things. Don't need to fix what isn't broken.
But then it dumbs the game down even more than it already is. Makes hiding and flanking a lot less useful on top of other things. Don't need to fix what isn't broken.
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