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X-box One at E3
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

Is this true? And is this a common practice at this types of conventions? I'll be honest, I really have never paid too much attention to these kinds of things, maybe because I'm usually busy or because there is usually too many videos and not enough articles. Either way, I did watch some of it this year and was wondering why anyone would think doing that would be a good idea?

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html

Is this true? And is this a common practice at this types of conventions? I'll be honest, I really have never paid too much attention to these kinds of things, maybe because I'm usually busy or because there is usually too many videos and not enough articles. Either way, I did watch some of it this year and was wondering why anyone would think doing that would be a good idea?
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http://youtu.be/0GwurgaAIQg?t=24m7s

http://youtu.be/0GwurgaAIQg?t=24m7s
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To be honest this is probably what PS4 was doing and what most hardware was doing before. The fact is that the hardware is not 100% ready and it was easier to just emulate the console using similar hardware on windows than trying to fully produce enough XboxOne for E3. I really doubt that the hardware used at E3 would really be more powerful than what the XboxOne actually uses. Unless some news comes out about how the PCs were running Intel 2011 socket CPUs OC'ed and GTX Titans x2, this is really a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion as an excuse to hate the XboxOne even more.

EDIT: BIO LOVE THE LINK FOR THE LINUS STREAM.

To be honest this is probably what PS4 was doing and what most hardware was doing before. The fact is that the hardware is not 100% ready and it was easier to just emulate the console using similar hardware on windows than trying to fully produce enough XboxOne for E3. I really doubt that the hardware used at E3 would really be more powerful than what the XboxOne actually uses. Unless some news comes out about how the PCs were running Intel 2011 socket CPUs OC'ed and GTX Titans x2, this is really a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion as an excuse to hate the XboxOne even more.

EDIT: BIO LOVE THE LINK FOR THE LINUS STREAM.
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Biohttp://youtu.be/0GwurgaAIQg?t=24m7srQwireTo be honest this is probably what PS4 was doing and what most hardware was doing before. The fact is that the hardware is not 100% ready and it was easier to just emulate the console using similar hardware on windows than trying to fully producing enough XboxOne for E3. I really doubt that the hardware used at E3 would really be more powerful than what the XboxOne actually uses. Unless some news comes out about how the PCs were running Intel 2011 socket CPUs OC'ed and GTX Titans x2, this is really a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion as an excuse to hate the XboxOne even more.

EDIT: BIO LOVE THE LINK FOR THE LINUS STREAM.

While I understand it's completely possible (and easier) to have a PC emulate the consoles, what I am trying to understand is why the devs would want to. Again, I usually don't watch this kind of conventions but it makes me never want to really watch them anymore. If the whole point of having these things to hype a console, shouldn't the console be ready before they have it? Especially when it's both parties. It's like seeing an add for a game and it pisses me off when there is no actual gameplay footage, only cutscenes. I know that there is a few other things that do this, like car shows, but I think that is another reason why the "average" customer doesn't get excited over something that is only theoretical.

The whole point of my post wasn't to bash X-box One as much as try to understand why would a company hype something that doesn't even exist. It's basically not showing you anything on the product, only that here is what it could look like.

[quote=Bio]http://youtu.be/0GwurgaAIQg?t=24m7s[/quote]


[quote=rQwire]To be honest this is probably what PS4 was doing and what most hardware was doing before. The fact is that the hardware is not 100% ready and it was easier to just emulate the console using similar hardware on windows than trying to fully producing enough XboxOne for E3. I really doubt that the hardware used at E3 would really be more powerful than what the XboxOne actually uses. Unless some news comes out about how the PCs were running Intel 2011 socket CPUs OC'ed and GTX Titans x2, this is really a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion as an excuse to hate the XboxOne even more.

EDIT: BIO LOVE THE LINK FOR THE LINUS STREAM.[/quote]

While I understand it's completely possible (and easier) to have a PC emulate the consoles, what I am trying to understand is why the devs would want to. Again, I usually don't watch this kind of conventions but it makes me never want to really watch them anymore. If the whole point of having these things to hype a console, shouldn't the console be ready before they have it? Especially when it's both parties. It's like seeing an add for a game and it pisses me off when there is no actual gameplay footage, only cutscenes. I know that there is a few other things that do this, like car shows, but I think that is another reason why the "average" customer doesn't get excited over something that is only theoretical.

The whole point of my post wasn't to bash X-box One as much as try to understand why would a company hype something that doesn't even exist. It's basically not showing you anything on the product, only that here is what it could look like.
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Fzerowhy would a company hype something that doesn't even exist

To profit from gullible idiots (ie. anyone who has donated to any Kickstarter project at all) and impressionable children.

[quote=Fzero]why would a company hype something that doesn't even exist[/quote]

To profit from gullible idiots (ie. anyone who has donated to any Kickstarter project at all) and impressionable children.
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To prevent leaks so that E3 or whatever event they wanted was the actual reveal? Like Linus said in his stream the fact that the PS4 and XboxOne wasn't leaked until Sony and Micro revealed it was pretty amazing, Internet has been really good at killing surprises for the past decade.

As for your complaint. It's the new industry standard: use PC-rendered graphics that looks way better than their console counterpart, pre-release review copies to reviewers that are "encouraged" to give great scores, have "interviews" with the developers that feed you bullshit about how their games are "innovative" and "game of the year".

My advice? Don't buy into the hype, don't worry about pre-orders, don't really believe anything they say because they will pull every trick they can to get you to give them money. Wait until the games/console you want is out and read actual consumer reviews and impressions.

To prevent leaks so that E3 or whatever event they wanted was the actual reveal? Like Linus said in his stream the fact that the PS4 and XboxOne wasn't leaked until Sony and Micro revealed it was pretty amazing, Internet has been really good at killing surprises for the past decade.

As for your complaint. It's the new industry standard: use PC-rendered graphics that looks way better than their console counterpart, pre-release review copies to reviewers that are "encouraged" to give great scores, have "interviews" with the developers that feed you bullshit about how their games are "innovative" and "game of the year".

My advice? Don't buy into the hype, don't worry about pre-orders, don't really believe anything they say because they will pull every trick they can to get you to give them money. Wait until the games/console you want is out and read actual consumer reviews and impressions.
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This is a common and widely used practice

The developers simply don't have enough time to make a perfect build on a new console in time for a showing at E3. All the games are made using computers regardless, so they run the full working demo on computers to avoid problems.

It's a completely legitimate if you want to have a good E3 demonstration

This is a common and widely used practice

The developers simply don't have enough time to make a perfect build on a [b]new[/b] console in time for a showing at E3. All the games are made using computers regardless, so they run the full working demo on computers to avoid problems.

It's a completely legitimate if you want to have a good E3 demonstration
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They're running on devkits because that's all the developers have gotten so far.

They're running on devkits because that's all the developers have gotten so far.
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