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My first frag video (feedback appreciated)
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#1
33 Frags +

Hey tf.tv, I just made my first frag video (featuring all 9 classes used in 6v6 play).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJRvsrLnhU

Frags are all from the small 6s community here in China on our single pug/scrim server.

This video is more for showcasing some fun/cool kills than anything else.

Feedback is appreciated!

Hey tf.tv, I just made my first frag video (featuring all 9 classes used in 6v6 play).

[youtube]www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJRvsrLnhU[/youtube]

Frags are all from the small 6s community here in China on our single pug/scrim server.

This video is more for showcasing some fun/cool kills than anything else.

Feedback is appreciated!
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#2
10 Frags +

It's not often you see videos like this. Great frags!

It's not often you see videos like this. Great frags!
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#3
7 Frags +

Biggest complaint, fast forwarding through frags, then doing a slow-mo on the kill. Transition between each clip could have been better.

Other than that, I love it :>

Biggest complaint, fast forwarding through frags, then doing a slow-mo on the kill. Transition between each clip could have been better.

Other than that, I love it :>
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#4
5 Frags +
MYLESBiggest complaint, fast forwarding through frags, then doing a slow-mo on the kill. Transition between each clip could have been better.

Other than that, I love it :>

I tried to sort of keep a sync but I guess I'll have to take this into consideration for next time.

Thanks!

[quote=MYLES]Biggest complaint, fast forwarding through frags, then doing a slow-mo on the kill. Transition between each clip could have been better.

Other than that, I love it :>[/quote]

I tried to sort of keep a sync but I guess I'll have to take this into consideration for next time.

Thanks!
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#5
6 Frags +

I do want to say the way you did the beginning with the fast roll out, I loved it <3

I do want to say the way you did the beginning with the fast roll out, I loved it <3
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#6
3 Frags +

loved the vid nice frags and i liked the song as well :D

loved the vid nice frags and i liked the song as well :D
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#7
6 Frags +

Spy play was amazing.

Do consider using Lawena when you record your clips. Don't really want to see a crosshair in middle of a clip :p

Spy play was amazing.

Do consider using Lawena when you record your clips. Don't really want to see a crosshair in middle of a clip :p
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#8
7 Frags +
KaeyelSpy play was amazing.

Do consider using Lawena when you record your clips. Don't really want to see a crosshair in middle of a clip :p

I actually did use Lawena. As for the crosshair, I'm not too sure about whether I should keep it on or not in recorded clips since people seem divided on that issue. I personally like it since it shows aiming better.

[quote=Kaeyel]Spy play was amazing.

Do consider using Lawena when you record your clips. Don't really want to see a crosshair in middle of a clip :p[/quote]

I actually did use Lawena. As for the crosshair, I'm not too sure about whether I should keep it on or not in recorded clips since people seem divided on that issue. I personally like it since it shows aiming better.
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#9
-1 Frags +

Main thing I would say, is add some color correction, and some transitions. Weather its a slide or a fade, it looks much better then 1 clip after the next. Didnt really like how you put the music and the "all frags are from 6v6 games" in huge text at the beginning

work on syncing other parts of the song, and use srcdemo2

Main thing I would say, is add some color correction, and some transitions. Weather its a slide or a fade, it looks much better then 1 clip after the next. Didnt really like how you put the music and the "all frags are from 6v6 games" in huge text at the beginning

work on syncing other parts of the song, and use srcdemo2
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#10
2 Frags +
BubbaMain thing I would say, is add some color correction, and some transitions. Weather its a slide or a fade, it looks much better then 1 clip after the next. Didnt really like how you put the music and the "all frags are from 6v6 games" in huge text at the beginning

work on syncing other parts of the song, and use srcdemo2

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have to figure out what srcdemo2 is.

[quote=Bubba]Main thing I would say, is add some color correction, and some transitions. Weather its a slide or a fade, it looks much better then 1 clip after the next. Didnt really like how you put the music and the "all frags are from 6v6 games" in huge text at the beginning

work on syncing other parts of the song, and use srcdemo2[/quote]

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have to figure out what srcdemo2 is.
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#11
1 Frags +

Was it just me but the Scout on Badlands at the 2:00 mark seemed kinda skippy might just have been my eyes.

I would like to see more editing though, something fancy done to the clips not just one after the other. Like the CG animation stuff if possible <3

Was it just me but the Scout on Badlands at the 2:00 mark seemed kinda skippy might just have been my eyes.

I would like to see more editing though, something fancy done to the clips not just one after the other. Like the CG animation stuff if possible <3
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#12
1 Frags +
cakesKaeyel-snip-
I actually did use Lawena. As for the crosshair, I'm not too sure about whether I should keep it on or not in recorded clips since people seem divided on that issue. I personally like it since it shows aiming better.

You could turn them off for melee weapons at least. No aim required there (I'm lying)

[quote=cakes][quote=Kaeyel]-snip-[/quote]

I actually did use Lawena. As for the crosshair, I'm not too sure about whether I should keep it on or not in recorded clips since people seem divided on that issue. I personally like it since it shows aiming better.[/quote]

You could turn them off for melee weapons at least. No aim required there (I'm lying)
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#13
3 Frags +

This was actually really good. Nice work dude :D

This was actually really good. Nice work dude :D
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#14
3 Frags +

amazing frags

terrible, terrible transitions (black screen)

otherwise i loved it

amazing frags

terrible, terrible transitions (black screen)

otherwise i loved it
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#15
0 Frags +

only 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.

liked the video and music

only 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.

liked the video and music
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#16
1 Frags +
natapononly 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.

I can't speak for the rest of the Chinese players but for the Shanghai ones we get over 200 for HK/KR servers (and AFL servers) which really sucks.

[quote=natapon]only 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.[/quote]

I can't speak for the rest of the Chinese players but for the Shanghai ones we get over 200 for HK/KR servers (and AFL servers) which really sucks.
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#17
1 Frags +

Some really nice frags, great job

Some really nice frags, great job
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#18
0 Frags +

These are some of the ballsiest plays I have ever seen, are any of these from officials, or just pugs?

These are some of the ballsiest plays I have ever seen, are any of these from officials, or just pugs?
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#19
0 Frags +

Transitions could have been better but the frags and everything else were awesome!

Transitions could have been better but the frags and everything else were awesome!
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#20
0 Frags +

why are there 3 enemy soldiers in the first clip?

why are there 3 enemy soldiers in the first clip?
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#21
0 Frags +
WaldoThese are some of the ballsiest plays I have ever seen, are any of these from officials, or just pugs?

Pugs and scrims. Can't really play in official leagues here due to ping. :/

arkonwhy are there 3 enemy soldiers in the first clip?

Yeah that confused me too when I rewatched it. I think there was a glitch with the server tournament mode or something when two players both tried to switch to soldier at once.

[quote=Waldo]These are some of the ballsiest plays I have ever seen, are any of these from officials, or just pugs?[/quote]

Pugs and scrims. Can't really play in official leagues here due to ping. :/

[quote=arkon]why are there 3 enemy soldiers in the first clip?[/quote]

Yeah that confused me too when I rewatched it. I think there was a glitch with the server tournament mode or something when two players both tried to switch to soldier at once.
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#22
0 Frags +
cakes-3 soldiers-

2 Soldiers on Red, 1 on Blue
1 on Blue switches teams then closes the class selection menu
3 Soldiers on Blue

[quote=cakes]-3 soldiers-[/quote]

2 Soldiers on Red, 1 on Blue
1 on Blue switches teams then closes the class selection menu
3 Soldiers on Blue
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#23
-4 Frags +

regarding crosshairs in frag vids:
soldier, its not needed
sniper, its not needed
scout, its okay
demo, its not needed
medic, not needed
engineer, its okay
pyro, not needed
spy, (depends on whether or not revolver actually matters)
heavy, not needed

BASICALLY, put crosshairs on for aim intensive classes, imo

regarding crosshairs in frag vids:
soldier, its not needed
sniper, its not needed
scout, its okay
demo, its not needed
medic, not needed
engineer, its okay
pyro, not needed
spy, (depends on whether or not revolver actually matters)
heavy, not needed

BASICALLY, put crosshairs on for aim intensive classes, imo
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#24
3 Frags +

I really enjoyed it :D

I really enjoyed it :D
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#25
0 Frags +
cakesnatapononly 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.
I can't speak for the rest of the Chinese players but for the Shanghai ones we get over 200 for HK/KR servers (and AFL servers) which really sucks.

how big is the community in china?

[quote=cakes][quote=natapon]only 1 server? what do you guys ping to the hk pug servers? as far as i know, you guys seem quite detached from the rest of the asian tf2 community.[/quote]

I can't speak for the rest of the Chinese players but for the Shanghai ones we get over 200 for HK/KR servers (and AFL servers) which really sucks.[/quote]

how big is the community in china?
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#26
1 Frags +

nice frags, well made

nice frags, well made
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#27
2 Frags +

That spy play was ridiculous. Nice video

That spy play was ridiculous. Nice video
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#28
3 Frags +
downpourregarding crosshairs in frag vids:
soldier, its not needed
sniper, its not needed
scout, its okay
demo, its not needed
medic, not needed
engineer, its okay
pyro, not needed
spy, (depends on whether or not revolver actually matters)
heavy, not needed

BASICALLY, put crosshairs on for aim intensive classes, imo

If there's anything I actually learned from making videos, it's that the majority prefer crosshairs on every class. You can't have crosshairs on for some class and then off for others. Inconsistency in frag videos is close to the #1 reason why people don't like videos that would otherwise be good. And by inconsistency, I don't only mean crosshairs.

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As for the video, I enjoyed it. I do agree on making your transitions better. Don't be afraid to use smooths for every transition if you want (I mean there are plenty of other ways to transition, but smooths seem to be generally pleasing to everyone). The one thing I do want to point out is that you're using slow motion with a framerate lower than 240. The problem with that is slow motion honestly looks bad no matter who does it if it's a lower framerate than 240. 120 slow motion isn't bad but it's still hard to look at. Not sure what you recorded at, but if it actually is 240 then I don't know why it's like that :x

Either way 10/10, would watch forever.

[quote=downpour]regarding crosshairs in frag vids:
soldier, its not needed
sniper, its not needed
scout, its okay
demo, its not needed
medic, not needed
engineer, its okay
pyro, not needed
spy, (depends on whether or not revolver actually matters)
heavy, not needed

BASICALLY, put crosshairs on for aim intensive classes, imo[/quote]

If there's anything I actually learned from making videos, it's that the majority prefer crosshairs on every class. You can't have crosshairs on for some class and then off for others. Inconsistency in frag videos is close to the #1 reason why people don't like videos that would otherwise be good. And by inconsistency, I don't only mean crosshairs.

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As for the video, I enjoyed it. I do agree on making your transitions better. Don't be afraid to use smooths for every transition if you want (I mean there are plenty of other ways to transition, but smooths seem to be generally pleasing to everyone). The one thing I do want to point out is that you're using slow motion with a framerate lower than 240. The problem with that is slow motion honestly looks bad no matter who does it if it's a lower framerate than 240. 120 slow motion isn't bad but it's still hard to look at. Not sure what you recorded at, but if it actually is 240 then I don't know why it's like that :x

Either way 10/10, would watch forever.
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#29
1 Frags +

Loved it. Imo you don't need to make the transitions jumpy and ridiculous but something a little different would help. Nothing too hard on the eyes. Liked the song too :P The frags were brilliant haha i hope the community is growing over there :D!

Loved it. Imo you don't need to make the transitions jumpy and ridiculous but something a little different would help. Nothing too hard on the eyes. Liked the song too :P The frags were brilliant haha i hope the community is growing over there :D!
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#30
1 Frags +
nataponhow big is the community in china?

I think it used to be bigger but a lot of players switched to Dota 2. I'd say we have about 30 regulars these days on the pug server with some others who occasionally play.

kirbyAs for the video, I enjoyed it. I do agree on making your transitions better. Don't be afraid to use smooths for every transition if you want (I mean there are plenty of other ways to transition, but smooths seem to be generally pleasing to everyone). The one thing I do want to point out is that you're using slow motion with a framerate lower than 240. The problem with that is slow motion honestly looks bad no matter who does it if it's a lower framerate than 240. 120 slow motion isn't bad but it's still hard to look at. Not sure what you recorded at, but if it actually is 240 then I don't know why it's like that :x

Either way 10/10, would watch forever.

Thanks for the fps tip. I was never quite sure how fps really affected recordings.

[quote=natapon]how big is the community in china?[/quote]

I think it used to be bigger but a lot of players switched to Dota 2. I'd say we have about 30 regulars these days on the pug server with some others who occasionally play.

[quote=kirby]As for the video, I enjoyed it. I do agree on making your transitions better. Don't be afraid to use smooths for every transition if you want (I mean there are plenty of other ways to transition, but smooths seem to be generally pleasing to everyone). The one thing I do want to point out is that you're using slow motion with a framerate lower than 240. The problem with that is slow motion honestly looks bad no matter who does it if it's a lower framerate than 240. 120 slow motion isn't bad but it's still hard to look at. Not sure what you recorded at, but if it actually is 240 then I don't know why it's like that :x

Either way 10/10, would watch forever.[/quote]

Thanks for the fps tip. I was never quite sure how fps really affected recordings.
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