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interesting way to raise school spirit
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they hosted the same thing for the black community at my highschool and most people who attended were white or asian...

they hosted the same thing for the black community at my highschool and most people who attended were white or asian...
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rangano its more about cultural differences

thats highly debatable

maybe if you were comparing the difference in success between an asian immigrant and an african or caribbean immigrant, which would be smaller to begin with (and also somewhat dependent on the demographics of immigrants coming over, e.g. that most chinese immigrants are middle class to begin with)

but there's a difference between immigrants and a marginalized underclass that has been present for hundreds of years (especially one that was formerly enslaved)

[quote=ranga]no its more about cultural differences[/quote]

thats highly debatable

maybe if you were comparing the difference in success between an asian immigrant and an african or caribbean immigrant, which would be smaller to begin with (and also somewhat dependent on the demographics of immigrants coming over, e.g. that most chinese immigrants are middle class to begin with)

but there's a difference between immigrants and a marginalized underclass that has been present for hundreds of years (especially one that was formerly enslaved)
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i was mainly comparing the roots of asians and africans in their home countries, as i have more experience with them than in america. the roots of inequality for africa stems a lot from the fact that they do not have a lot of arable land (more on this discussed by famous scientist jared diamond), but its not the only cause of difference levels of educational success either there or here.

in india (and other asian countries, e.g. south korea) the culture is so education oriented in all classes (kids younger than me committing suicide for not getting above 95% is a common occurrence), whereas the focus was different in some african countries. in america obviously asian immigrants have a clear advantage than people who were enslaved...

i was mainly comparing the roots of asians and africans in their home countries, as i have more experience with them than in america. the roots of inequality for africa stems a lot from the fact that they do not have a lot of arable land (more on this discussed by famous scientist jared diamond), but its not the only cause of difference levels of educational success either there or here.

in india (and other asian countries, e.g. south korea) the culture is so education oriented in all classes (kids younger than me committing suicide for not getting above 95% is a common occurrence), whereas the focus was different in some african countries. in america obviously asian immigrants have a clear advantage than people who were enslaved...
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that's mostly fair enough, although you still have to discuss the specifics of colonialism

I think it's hard to argue that british colonialism in india was a lot less fundamentally extractive than most european colonialism in africa

that's mostly fair enough, although you still have to discuss the specifics of colonialism

I think it's hard to argue that british colonialism in india was a lot less fundamentally extractive than most european colonialism in africa
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definitely, but i think its hard to compare an entire continent to a country despite it being huge. while the belgians in congo (heart of darkness anyone?) are pretty hard to beat, i would say the british were quite horrific as well even though there were some positives, but i don't think it was worth it.

korea's resurgence after their rule under imperial japan always impresses me as well

definitely, but i think its hard to compare an entire continent to a country despite it being huge. while the belgians in congo (heart of darkness anyone?) are pretty hard to beat, i would say the british were quite horrific as well even though there were some positives, but i don't think it was worth it.

korea's resurgence after their rule under imperial japan always impresses me as well
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korea is a real outlier, I have no idea how the fuck they did what they did

korea is a real outlier, I have no idea how the fuck they did what they did
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