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voting 2012
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Voting for the first time this year, laughing at this LA County measure:
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Los_Angeles_Porn_Actors_Required_to_Wear_Condoms_Act,_Measure_B_%28November_2012%29

Anyways, post/discuss random propositions/measures your country or state might have. Rather avoid talking about the election here because it almost always ends up being a circlejerk.

Voting for the first time this year, laughing at this LA County measure:
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Los_Angeles_Porn_Actors_Required_to_Wear_Condoms_Act,_Measure_B_%28November_2012%29

Anyways, post/discuss random propositions/measures your country or state might have. Rather avoid talking about the election here because it almost always ends up being a circlejerk.
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yes on 36
stein for president

yes on 36
stein for president
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#3
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Medical Marijuana :)

Medical Marijuana :)
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writing in ron paul, only the truly brave witll do this

writing in ron paul, only the truly brave witll do this
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kony 2012

kony 2012
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prestigewriting in ron paul, only the truly brave witll do this

NEVER 4GET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ#t=6m18s
Embedded (Go to 6:18)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ

[quote=prestige]writing in ron paul, only the truly brave witll do this[/quote]
NEVER 4GET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ#t=6m18s
Embedded (Go to 6:18)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUPzN7tp7bQ[/youtube]
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vote YES on 37 to label Genetically Modified Organisms in food if you live in California.

Also vote NO on WAR by not voting for Republican or Democrat in the Presidential Election.

To those of you who are into Ron Paul, Check out Gary Johnson he is the Libertarian Candidate.

vote YES on 37 to label Genetically Modified Organisms in food if you live in California.

Also vote NO on WAR by not voting for Republican or Democrat in the Presidential Election.


To those of you who are into Ron Paul, Check out Gary Johnson he is the Libertarian Candidate.
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justin amash 4 congress

justin amash 4 congress
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ok I guess fuck the "avoid election" part.

ok I guess fuck the "avoid election" part.
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voting is endorsing the system

voting is endorsing the system
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No point in voting unless you're in the minority of areas where elections are actually competitive. What a great system we have.

No point in voting unless you're in the minority of areas where elections are actually competitive. What a great system we have.
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Wow, I really would love to know how they worded that issue on the ballot language.

Ohio's main ballot is issue 2, which would force the Redistricting process to be a citizen commission instead of politicians every 10 years

PS- I remember a old youtube video of Aurora Snow during a interview, while driving lol, where she was explaining in good detail how the porn industry really works. I think she talks a lot about STD's within the industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOt8FKS84Yw

Wow, I really would love to know how they worded that issue on the ballot language.

Ohio's main ballot is issue 2, which would force the Redistricting process to be a citizen commission instead of politicians every 10 years

PS- I remember a old youtube video of Aurora Snow during a interview, while driving lol, where she was explaining in good detail how the porn industry really works. I think she talks a lot about STD's within the industry.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOt8FKS84Yw[/youtube]
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YES on 37?

Why should California pay administrative money plus legal fees when we're already fucked by the debt to get every single grocery product you buy labeled with a GMO sign? Consumer information is important but it's not worth the cost of this proposition.

YES on 37?

Why should California pay administrative money plus legal fees when we're already fucked by the debt to get every single grocery product you buy labeled with a GMO sign? Consumer information is important but it's not worth the cost of this proposition.
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#14 enjoy your cancer

#14 enjoy your cancer
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#14 I'd say it'll actually help get rid of the scam that is organic food (because it has no legal definition as of now, organic is such a stupidly loose term).

Also, voted yes for killing the death penalty because it costs more (appeals and what not). I wouldn't mind if it was as cheap as life w/o parole though, but letting someone rot in a jail is pretty bad anyways.

#14 I'd say it'll actually help get rid of the scam that is organic food (because it has no legal definition as of now, organic is such a stupidly loose term).

Also, voted yes for killing the death penalty because it costs more (appeals and what not). I wouldn't mind if it was as cheap as life w/o parole though, but letting someone rot in a jail is pretty bad anyways.
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lol politics on gaming forums

lol politics on gaming forums
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synchrolol politics on gaming forums

Why not? We got e-cigarettes and hurricane posts. They have nothing to do with gaming (except indirectly, like hurricanes might knock out power like new laws might affect what happens locally).

[quote=synchro]lol politics on gaming forums[/quote]
Why not? We got e-cigarettes and hurricane posts. They have nothing to do with gaming (except indirectly, like hurricanes might knock out power like new laws might affect what happens locally).
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wikipedia There is now broad scientific and regulatory consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops is safe enough to eat.[44][45][46][47] The European Commission Directorate-General for Research and Innovation 2010 report on GMOs noted that "The main conclusion to be drawn from the efforts of more than 130 research projects, covering a period of more than 25 years of research, and involving more than 500 independent research groups, is that biotechnology, and in particular GMOs, are not per se more risky than e.g. conventional plant breeding technologies."[48] A 2008 review published by the Royal Society of Medicine noted that GM foods have been eaten by millions of people worldwide for over 15 years, with no reports of ill effects.[49] Similarly a 2004 report from the US National Academies of Sciences stated: "To date, no adverse health effects attributed to genetic engineering have been documented in the human population."[50]
[quote=wikipedia] There is now broad scientific and regulatory consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops is safe enough to eat.[44][45][46][47] The European Commission Directorate-General for Research and Innovation 2010 report on GMOs noted that "The main conclusion to be drawn from the efforts of more than 130 research projects, covering a period of more than 25 years of research, and involving more than 500 independent research groups, is that biotechnology, and in particular GMOs, are not per se more risky than e.g. conventional plant breeding technologies."[48] A 2008 review published by the Royal Society of Medicine noted that GM foods have been eaten by millions of people worldwide for over 15 years, with no reports of ill effects.[49] Similarly a 2004 report from the US National Academies of Sciences stated: "To date, no adverse health effects attributed to genetic engineering have been documented in the human population."[50] [/quote]
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i don't understand people who don't vote on the basis that "my vote doesn't matter". like if you think that way why not just do absolutely fucking nothing at all, because obviously your own individual action is so insignificant in the grand scheme of everything that it's really never worthwhile. if the importance of voting and expressing your voice on what you want to be done with your own country doesn't overcome your reservations about the power of individual action, i don't know what to say. why play tf2 - you'll never be invite. it doesn't matter. why learn - your education will never amount to anything extremely significant anyway. why live if your life is just going to be average and you'll die like everyone else, leaving no mark on the world that you existed. ??? so go vote

i don't understand people who don't vote on the basis that "my vote doesn't matter". like if you think that way why not just do absolutely fucking nothing at all, because obviously your own individual action is so insignificant in the grand scheme of everything that it's really never worthwhile. if the importance of voting and expressing your voice on what you want to be done with your own country doesn't overcome your reservations about the power of individual action, i don't know what to say. why play tf2 - you'll never be invite. it doesn't matter. why learn - your education will never amount to anything extremely significant anyway. why live if your life is just going to be average and you'll die like everyone else, leaving no mark on the world that you existed. ??? so go vote
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have you ever watched the x files

#20 you seem to have stumbled right up to the doorstep of an existential crisis, and then managed to turn away by lying to yourself.
PS your vote doesn't matter not only due to numbers but also because of the winner-takes-all voting system as well as only voting for one candidate

have you ever watched the x files

#20 you seem to have stumbled right up to the doorstep of an existential crisis, and then managed to turn away by lying to yourself.
PS your vote doesn't matter not only due to numbers but also because of the winner-takes-all voting system as well as only voting for one candidate
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vote or die

vote or die
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then kill me because our current system is a joke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE

then kill me because our current system is a joke
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE[/youtube]
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#23, please explain how this applies to voting yes or no on a proposition. Do you want to have 10 bills per ballot measure or something? I don't get why you wouldn't vote on measures where runoff voting doesn't matter at all.

#23, please explain how this applies to voting yes or no on a proposition. Do you want to have 10 bills per ballot measure or something? I don't get why you wouldn't vote on measures where runoff voting doesn't matter at all.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-5-2011/california-s-direct-democracy-troubles

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-5-2011/california-s-direct-democracy-troubles
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Yeah, I'd much prefer the US to use the alternative vote/instant-runoff voting. But I will still vote because of my states ballot proposals, and because of some close local elects. And will probably write in a candidate for president.

Yeah, I'd much prefer the US to use the alternative vote/instant-runoff voting. But I will still vote because of my states ballot proposals, and because of some close local elects. And will probably write in a candidate for president.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B15oIc-B4K0

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B15oIc-B4K0[/youtube]
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I'm with #14, I voted no on 37. California doesn't need more debt.
#24, the youtube video is clearly talking about voting for candidates and not propositions. Why limit the discussion to propositions when most people here don't live in California?

I'm with #14, I voted no on 37. California doesn't need more debt.
#24, the youtube video is clearly talking about voting for candidates and not propositions. Why limit the discussion to propositions when most people here don't live in California?
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snack_attackI'm with #14, I voted no on 37. California doesn't need more debt.
#24, the youtube video is clearly talking about voting for candidates and not propositions. Why limit the discussion to propositions when most people here don't live in California?

Um, he talked about the GMO proposition earlier suggesting he was in California. Also, I thought that there was many more local bills that get voted on elsewhere (my link in the OP is about a county measure, not a proposition). I imagine many other states have local direct democracy votes and not just LA county (could be wrong though). And I'm bagging on him for not voting simply because the candidate voting system is flawed where he could clearly vote for something that didn't have a flawed voting system (you can argue the prop system is flawed, but either way you're going to have to deal with what's voted).

[quote=snack_attack]I'm with #14, I voted no on 37. California doesn't need more debt.
#24, the youtube video is clearly talking about voting for candidates and not propositions. Why limit the discussion to propositions when most people here don't live in California?[/quote]
Um, he talked about the GMO proposition earlier suggesting he was in California. Also, I thought that there was many more local bills that get voted on elsewhere (my link in the OP is about a county measure, not a proposition). I imagine many other states have local direct democracy votes and not just LA county (could be wrong though). And I'm bagging on him for not voting simply because the candidate voting system is flawed where he could clearly vote for something that didn't have a flawed voting system (you can argue the prop system is flawed, but either way you're going to have to deal with what's voted).
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Wait, people take ron paul seriously?
That's funny.

Wait, people take ron paul seriously?
That's funny.
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