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571
#571
5 Frags +
TheFragileTeapot_imo leave spread out for most games and consult someone in the know about invite/prem if you think the match might need a spread. last night's game would have had great odds for 5 Dollar Club if there was no spread since most people didn't recognise how close it was going to be.
This. Exactly this.

I don't think the idea of spread is horrible in every scenario, but I think it shouldn't be used that much. And even when it is used, I don't think it should make the odds 50/50 (like a last place invite team getting one round against Froyo or something). Because again, I think having those low odds to bet on will really pay off if you are a knowledgeable person.

IMO, I wouldn't do spread whatsoever, maybe unless it was a top 2 team going against a bottom 2 team. Even then, I would make it so the bottom 2 team would have to get like 3 rounds or something.

Also, I'm not getting the 500 internal server error anymore. :) Thanks for fixing it.

Please listen to these people. I agree with the above points.

[quote=TheFragile][quote=Teapot_]imo leave spread out for most games and consult someone in the know about invite/prem if you think the match might need a spread. last night's game would have had great odds for 5 Dollar Club if there was no spread since most people didn't recognise how close it was going to be.[/quote]

This. Exactly this.

I don't think the idea of spread is horrible in every scenario, but I think it shouldn't be used that much. And even when it is used, I don't think it should make the odds 50/50 (like a last place invite team getting one round against Froyo or something). Because again, I think having those low odds to bet on will really pay off if you are a knowledgeable person.

IMO, I wouldn't do spread whatsoever, maybe unless it was a top 2 team going against a bottom 2 team. Even then, I would make it so the bottom 2 team would have to get like 3 rounds or something.

Also, I'm not getting the 500 internal server error anymore. :) Thanks for fixing it.[/quote]

Please listen to these people. I agree with the above points.
572
#572
2 Frags +
fightI can't collect my payout, it keeps telling me "Couldn't reach websocket" and then reloading the page

Fixed

[quote=fight]I can't collect my payout, it keeps telling me "Couldn't reach websocket" and then reloading the page[/quote]
Fixed
573
#573
2 Frags +

On the site ukip vs unpoppable is confirmed 0-3 but looks like the winners are not getting the items. Is it a matter of time or is there a bug? Because the other matches that were played at the same time are already done.

On the site ukip vs unpoppable is confirmed 0-3 but looks like the winners are not getting the items. Is it a matter of time or is there a bug? Because the other matches that were played at the same time are already done.
574
#574
9 Frags +
_vittoOn the site ukip vs unpoppable is confirmed 0-3 but looks like the winners are not getting the items. Is it a matter of time or is there a bug? Because the other matches that were played at the same time are already done.

Fixed this match and a bug responsible for it.

I've added all of this weeks Invite games but Froyos.
I'm going to be adding all of Invite in May (except for total rolls) and then take a 2 weeks long break in June from coding entirely to reset my mind. This month is pretty tough for me with 8hrs job on a different side of a river and many other commitments which is why I've decided I may deserve it.
This means that new features won't be being developed in that time and I'll be repairing only critical bugs, however I will still be able to add games from beaches of Hawaii ;)

When I come back with more power and motivation I'm going to try and develop various new features to prepare for the influx of the new players and those include:

  • Having different nodes (servers) in different locations starting with KC (current), Amsterdam and Singapore
  • Team pages with rosters I have and additional information from Comp.tf so new players know what's going on
  • Competition pages similar to how team's will look.
  • Home page showcasing streams, TF.TV posts etc. as well as bets
  • Discussion on match pages
  • E-mail notifications
  • Betting stranges and australiums
  • suggestions?

E: After that we may call it a release

[quote=_vitto]On the site ukip vs unpoppable is confirmed 0-3 but looks like the winners are not getting the items. Is it a matter of time or is there a bug? Because the other matches that were played at the same time are already done.[/quote]
Fixed this match and a bug responsible for it.

I've added all of this weeks Invite games but Froyos.
I'm going to be adding all of Invite in May (except for total rolls) and then take a 2 weeks long break in June from coding entirely to reset my mind. This month is pretty tough for me with 8hrs job on a different side of a river and many other commitments which is why I've decided I may deserve it.
This means that new features won't be being developed in that time and I'll be repairing only critical bugs, however I will still be able to add games from beaches of Hawaii ;)

When I come back with more power and motivation I'm going to try and develop various new features to prepare for the influx of the new players and those include:
[list]
[*] Having different nodes (servers) in different locations starting with KC (current), Amsterdam and Singapore
[*] Team pages with rosters I have and additional information from Comp.tf so new players know what's going on
[*] Competition pages similar to how team's will look.
[*] Home page showcasing streams, TF.TV posts etc. as well as bets
[*] Discussion on match pages
[*] E-mail notifications
[*] Betting stranges and australiums
[*] suggestions?
[/list]
E: After that we may call it a release
575
#575
Ascent
4 Frags +

you should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently

you should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently
576
#576
6 Frags +
Ma3laayou should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently

It's hard to get it to top. The last attempt was pretty mediocre: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/330ovp/you_can_bet_on_all_esea_lan_matches_on_saloontf/
But I may try again if anyone has any ideas as in what's the best time to post etc.

[quote=Ma3laa]you should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently[/quote]
It's hard to get it to top. The last attempt was pretty mediocre: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/330ovp/you_can_bet_on_all_esea_lan_matches_on_saloontf/
But I may try again if anyone has any ideas as in what's the best time to post etc.
577
#577
1 Frags +
Ma3laayou should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently

Apparently this is how you get to the top :D
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/35rm68/cant_wait_saloontf/

[quote=Ma3laa]you should post on reddit again that its in open beta for people to bet on matches, and that matches are being added consistently[/quote]
Apparently this is how you get to the top :D
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/35rm68/cant_wait_saloontf/
578
#578
0 Frags +

Best example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.

Best example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.
579
#579
3 Frags +
CHERRYBest example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.

thats fine, in those cases only people who max bet recieve winnings, people like to bet on underdogs, the only problem here is that i can bet 4 buds(since thats my limit), and others can bet 8 buds so he will most likely recieve more winnings

[quote=CHERRY]Best example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.[/quote]
thats fine, in those cases only people who max bet recieve winnings, people like to bet on underdogs, the only problem here is that i can bet 4 buds(since thats my limit), and others can bet 8 buds so he will most likely recieve more winnings
580
#580
1 Frags +

Or lose more items :D

http://i.imgur.com/HSVoVwo.png

Or lose more items :D
[img]http://i.imgur.com/HSVoVwo.png[/img]
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#581
0 Frags +
CHERRYBest example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.

I think that's okay considering Ive bet on around 85%-80% games on csgo and won nothing before I think parimutual is already working to our favor in item distribution even for these really unbalanced games.

Also wasnt there some game a few weeks ago that the team who had 90% lost?

[quote=CHERRY]Best example of what happens without a spread: https://saloon.tf/match/364/
Over 30 bets with no prize, most of them with an estimated payout of scrap or it's fraction.

And yet someone bet 2 scraps on Street Hoops - his estimated prize is roughly 0.06 of a scrap - $0.0008.[/quote]
I think that's okay considering Ive bet on around 85%-80% games on csgo and won nothing before I think parimutual is already working to our favor in item distribution even for these really unbalanced games.


Also wasnt there some game a few weeks ago that the team who had 90% lost?
582
#582
0 Frags +

What happened to 5$ vs ascent?

What happened to 5$ vs ascent?
583
#583
1 Frags +

https://saloon.tf/match/365/ :(
Also Jenna's bet :O

1,261,663 scraps bet so far.
That's 140,185 ref = 16,822 USD = 24,955 large beers.
5% cut would be getting me 16.64 beers/day :D

https://saloon.tf/match/365/ :(
Also Jenna's bet :O

1,261,663 scraps bet so far.
That's 140,185 ref = 16,822 USD = 24,955 large beers.
5% cut would be getting me 16.64 beers/day :D
584
#584
RGB LAN
0 Frags +
_vittoWhat happened to 5$ vs ascent?

$5 forfeitted.

[quote=_vitto]What happened to 5$ vs ascent?[/quote]

$5 forfeitted.
585
#585
8 Frags +

I'll be doing an AMA on r/tf2 on Monday 10pm CEST, 4pm EDT and 6am Sydney.
Hopefully more non comp oriented people will learn about Saloon and competitive in general.

I'll be doing an AMA on r/tf2 on Monday 10pm CEST, 4pm EDT and 6am Sydney.
Hopefully more non comp oriented people will learn about Saloon and competitive in general.
586
#586
3 Frags +
CHERRYI'll be doing an AMA on r/tf2 on Monday 10pm CEST, 4pm EDT and 6am Sydney.
Hopefully more non comp oriented people will learn about Saloon and competitive in general.

If you guys wanna upvote that AMA, make sure to not do it through a direct link.

[quote=CHERRY]I'll be doing an AMA on r/tf2 on Monday 10pm CEST, 4pm EDT and 6am Sydney.
Hopefully more non comp oriented people will learn about Saloon and competitive in general.[/quote]

If you guys wanna upvote that AMA, make sure to not do it through a direct link.
587
#587
4 Frags +

Cherry it'd be awesome if you could add in different kinds of bets, like betting on who you think will win the season overall.

Cherry it'd be awesome if you could add in different kinds of bets, like betting on who you think will win the season overall.
588
#588
2 Frags +

Of course.
It's an often requested idea, but not something I'd put high on my priority list atm with all other stuff that needs fixing/changing/adding. I understand if it's disappointing, but unfortunately the little things that go unseen, are usually the ones that are important :(
ETA at the moment is late August, but it may be earlier depending on my schedule.

Of course.
It's an often requested idea, but not something I'd put high on my priority list atm with all other stuff that needs fixing/changing/adding. I understand if it's disappointing, but unfortunately the little things that go unseen, are usually the ones that are important :(
ETA at the moment is late August, but it may be earlier depending on my schedule.
589
#589
0 Frags +

large beers for less than a dollar? mate try 4 dollars minimum

large beers for less than a dollar? mate try 4 dollars minimum
590
#590
1 Frags +

sweden is a mess

sweden is a mess
591
#591
0 Frags +

Well there's no prohibition in Poland, not even partial unless John Paul II is visiting.
Then you have a week of full strict prohibition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yoooQvXnQY

Well there's no prohibition in Poland, not even partial unless John Paul II is visiting.
Then you have a week of full strict prohibition.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yoooQvXnQY[/youtube]
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#592
2 Frags +

Added games!
https://saloon.tf/home/

Added games!
https://saloon.tf/home/
593
#593
7 Frags +

I'm going to be rich.

http://i.imgur.com/RDstdMZ.png

I'm going to be rich.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RDstdMZ.png[/img]
594
#594
0 Frags +

Yeah.
For Brendan Eich anything divided by 0 is infinite.

Yeah.
For Brendan Eich anything divided by 0 is infinite.
595
#595
5 Frags +

The AMA we were going to have yesterday will happen today in 1 hour and 41 minutes!
Subreddit is r/tf2 and time is 21:45 CEST

The AMA we were going to have yesterday will happen today in 1 hour and 41 minutes!
Subreddit is r/tf2 and time is 21:45 CEST
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#596
3 Frags +

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/36j5as/i_am_cherry_saloontfs_creator_ama/

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/36j5as/i_am_cherry_saloontfs_creator_ama/
597
#597
1 Frags +

I just started using saloon.tf and on my first bets I couldn't bet more than 4 items at once. Is that the limit per bet or am I missing out on sth obvious here?

I just started using saloon.tf and on my first bets I couldn't bet more than 4 items at once. Is that the limit per bet or am I missing out on sth obvious here?
598
#598
1 Frags +

You are correct.

You are correct.
599
#599
3 Frags +

What brooky said.

First match was verified as member of Staff was able to witness Acent winning with hawaii 5-0.
https://saloon.tf/match/375/
Congratulations to winners.

As others can be played without us noticing we'll reopen bets for them once ESEA is back.

EDIT: Not everyone won unfortuanely, wonder how that'll affect my bounceback rate.

What brooky said.

First match was verified as member of Staff was able to witness Acent winning with hawaii 5-0.
https://saloon.tf/match/375/
Congratulations to winners.

As others can be played without us noticing we'll reopen bets for them once ESEA is back.

EDIT: Not everyone won unfortuanely, wonder how that'll affect my bounceback rate.
600
#600
7 Frags +

How do I get my bet refunded for a match that was rescheduled?

How do I get my bet refunded for a match that was rescheduled?
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