just want to keep you guys up to date with our situation, we won't be playing with 5, we will either give the win or get sorrow if he can make it, we will know for sure on thursday, sorry for all the trouble.

just letting you guys know, we are changing the date back to wednesday, and we are going to be playing with sorrow as wackey is unavailable due to travel.

J&S

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The point I was trying to make was that the fact they dropped it from the pool caused worse maps to appear, since there were no other better alternatives.
You don't have to keep playing anything, if you want change and enough people vote for it then go ahead, nobody is stopping you and if you understood that from my post than I really don't know what to say.

When I said "by no means a bad thing" I was referring to the custom map part, it being bad for viewers is your opinion, and it is a valid one, I don't agree with you about warmfront being better than metalworks as it literally wasn't played in forever, but I could be wrong and this is a thread for suggestions and I'm not here to say you shouldn't suggest it.
As you were ignoring major factors about the core map itself and the way it plays but gave more attention to how it will be easier to watch on streams just because it's a pro version of a stock map.

Edit: If you think warmfront is better than metalworks, it's your opinion, the only thing I disagreed about is how you prefer a map just because it might be more familiar to viewers, as I don't think you've tested the map enough to justify it being replaced, if you would try and contact him before going to conclusions, then I would understand your point more.

I really dislike the way you dismiss metalworks just because it's a custom map and might not be familiar to viewers, I understand your point but it is by no means a bad thing, if we would have followed that same thought we would never have seen maps like process, snakewater and gullywash.

And on the other point you made of no other region picking the map up, I'm not gonna talk to any other region other than the one I play on, but here it was picked up, unfortunately it was replaced due to premiership players not enjoying it and wanting a change (which led to turbine and then (old)logjam, let's not talk about that dark time), and afaik other regions have done the same.

The only issue with metalworks really is that it doesn't get regular updates, I mean you've said it yourself, you've been playing this map for 7 seasons, obviously the map has gone through changes, but not enough, and now that Scorpio doesn't make maps and also has a job at another gaming company, it seems unlikely that he will unless someone actually steps up and contacts him about improvements to the map that might make it more viable.

If I were you guys, I would try contacting Scorpio as there is plenty of feedback over on the cp_metalworks feedback thread, and try getting the guy to update his map finally so it won't blow as much as you guys say it does.
I might be biased as I think Scorpio is one of the best map makers competitive tf2 has ever seen and it would be dumb not to reach out to him.

ping showing up as a graph is a feature valve added, a command called tf_scoreboard_ping_as_text, it's not hud related

he's just subbing

looks like reddit is on the train aswell, awesome to see.

https://i.imgur.com/6rjrvdC.png

should be up there at the event time

if you brought the tf2 tab back, would you mind making the order back to what it was?
TFTV TF2 CS:GO DOTA2

they put up a banana hat banner during the biggest tf2 lan of the year

then people wonder why our subreddit is a fucking joke that makes our game look like a fucking joke

so because ETF2L used viaduct_pro7 last 6's season we're using it for LAN aswell even though there's product_rc8?

a bit confused since etf2l also used sunshine_rc7 yet we're using rc8 for LAN

also great guide, can't wait, hopefully we can see logs integration with TFTV similar to when ESEA matches happen (if that's possible)

I can't auto-hide my taskbar anymore

It randomly worked once and I got no idea how to make it work

edit: found a fix for it https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f8gh3/auto_hide_taskbar_not_working/ctoo7jc

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what is your opinion on minions?
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