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#1
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As they say in Scouts Canada; "plan, do, review."

From my end, the first thing I know I screwed up bad with was Mumble. I had just enough time to get a server set up, and after trouble with that, did not have time to get a Mumble server going without causing a delay. Getting a Mumble setup is something I will allocate time for, and I'll make sure I have a Mumble installer with me as well. Thankfully, there's always someone's Mumble to bastardize (hahahahahah).

Next event? Maybe sometime between GXL and the new year. Size: probably not much bigger than what we had this event. (We can consider a bigger event in the spring or summer)

Some ideas for other events:

  • Experimental map pool
  • Dead/old map pool
  • MGE, Ultiduo, or BBall-specific tournaments
  • New players/mentorship tournament (Teams of new players either mixed in with or coached by experienced players)

Your feedback counts the most:

As they say in Scouts Canada; "plan, do, review."

From my end, the first thing I know I screwed up bad with was Mumble. I had just enough time to get a server set up, and after trouble with that, did not have time to get a Mumble server going without causing a delay. Getting a Mumble setup is something I will allocate time for, and I'll make sure I have a Mumble installer with me as well. Thankfully, there's always someone's Mumble to bastardize (hahahahahah).

Next event? Maybe sometime between GXL and the new year. Size: probably not much bigger than what we had this event. (We can consider a bigger event in the spring or summer)

Some ideas for other events:
[list]
[*] Experimental map pool
[*] Dead/old map pool
[*] MGE, Ultiduo, or BBall-specific tournaments
[*]New players/mentorship tournament (Teams of new players either mixed in with or coached by experienced players)
[/list]

Your feedback counts the most:
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#2
7 Frags +

144 hz monitors (I wonder if they'd let us bring our own?), and how much extra does it cost per person for us to rent out comps for each person.

+1 for the double stuff though Ahah

144 hz monitors (I wonder if they'd let us bring our own?), and how much extra does it cost per person for us to rent out comps for each person.

+1 for the double stuff though Ahah
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#3
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Obi144 hz monitors (I wonder if they'd let us bring our own?), and how much extra does it cost per person for us to rent out comps for each person.

+1 for the double stuff though Ahah

I was told they would let us bring out own monitors, you would just need to ask the owner to switch them out for you, I'm sure they'd have somewhere to put it.

Even with an impact on prizes, I'd really like more PC's, just a bit more to do while matches aren't happening, and even after the tournament if we finished early enough we could do something else like HL or Ultiduo. PC's were $20 per person, with the $26 Hidi charged for 13 PC's, she was able to pay for prizes and have the first wave of burgers pre paid for us. If people were willing to forgo that and pay a bit extra we could pool the money back into prizes, or potentially pay Dashner to produce if we got the go ahead for a stream from H&L, and ofc is dashner even wanted to produce, I would imagine its not simple. but I'm really interesting in seeing what goes into production.

[quote=Obi]144 hz monitors (I wonder if they'd let us bring our own?), and how much extra does it cost per person for us to rent out comps for each person.

+1 for the double stuff though Ahah[/quote]

I was told they would let us bring out own monitors, you would just need to ask the owner to switch them out for you, I'm sure they'd have somewhere to put it.

Even with an impact on prizes, I'd really like more PC's, just a bit more to do while matches aren't happening, and even after the tournament if we finished early enough we could do something else like HL or Ultiduo. PC's were $20 per person, with the $26 Hidi charged for 13 PC's, she was able to pay for prizes and have the first wave of burgers pre paid for us. If people were willing to forgo that and pay a bit extra we could pool the money back into prizes, or potentially pay Dashner to produce if we got the go ahead for a stream from H&L, and ofc is dashner even wanted to produce, I would imagine its not simple. but I'm really interesting in seeing what goes into production.
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#4
2 Frags +

^ I agree with sheo personally. It would've saved a lot of hassle my team had with configs if everyone had their own computer reserved, and who knows, maybe we could've done better if we'd been able to practice between rounds ;)

^ I agree with sheo personally. It would've saved a lot of hassle my team had with configs if everyone had their own computer reserved, and who knows, maybe we could've done better if we'd been able to practice between rounds ;)
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#5
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More PCs available would have been great. It was stressful playing 'cause I never knew if everything would go right. Configs really screwed me over a few times. In this case it would've been good to have one computer assigned to two different people, just to limit the amount of configs being installed. To be fair I probably don't know the most effective way to wipe and reinstall configs, though.

Kinda didn't like the monitors but I get it. They probably get more MOBA players than FPS. And having a 144 for each of their setup would've been $$$$ as heck. I would've considered bringing my own had I known.

Still good though, you obviously put a lot of effort into organizing it. Thank you!!

More PCs available would have been great. It was stressful playing 'cause I never knew if everything would go right. Configs really screwed me over a few times. In this case it would've been good to have one computer assigned to two different people, just to limit the amount of configs being installed. To be fair I probably don't know the most effective way to wipe and reinstall configs, though.

Kinda didn't like the monitors but I get it. They probably get more MOBA players than FPS. And having a 144 for each of their setup would've been $$$$ as heck. I would've considered bringing my own had I known.

Still good though, you obviously put a lot of effort into organizing it. Thank you!!
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#6
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144hz would be the bomb. And I'm pretty sure having no prize would be fine with pretty much everyone.

I think if we can't get our own individual computers, having something like a checklist of which files and folders to bring with you so that you can setup your configs and huds really fast would be good. Other than that, being able to stream or at least record mumble/stv together for casting would be great. Even if we don't get any actual casters, I'm sure it'd be really nice if we could just get people from other teams doing play-by-play.

Biggest thing I think is getting the date down a lot earlier in advance so that it's easier for people to commit. I think we could've had at least 36+ players if we knew the date a couple months in advance.

144hz would be the bomb. And I'm pretty sure having no prize would be fine with pretty much everyone.

I think if we can't get our own individual computers, having something like a checklist of which files and folders to bring with you so that you can setup your configs and huds really fast would be good. Other than that, being able to stream or at least record mumble/stv together for casting would be great. Even if we don't get any actual casters, I'm sure it'd be really nice if we could just get people from other teams doing play-by-play.

Biggest thing I think is getting the date down a lot earlier in advance so that it's easier for people to commit. I think we could've had at least 36+ players if we knew the date a couple months in advance.
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#7
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DayNife144hz would be the bomb. And I'm pretty sure having no prize would be fine with pretty much everyone.

I think if we can't get our own individual computers, having something like a checklist of which files and folders to bring with you so that you can setup your configs and huds really fast would be good. Other than that, being able to stream or at least record mumble/stv together for casting would be great. Even if we don't get any actual casters, I'm sure it'd be really nice if we could just get people from other teams doing play-by-play.

Biggest thing I think is getting the date down a lot earlier in advance so that it's easier for people to commit. I think we could've had at least 36+ players if we knew the date a couple months in advance.

We could always open up donations for people who had extra stuff to throw in a prize pool.

[quote=DayNife]144hz would be the bomb. And I'm pretty sure having no prize would be fine with pretty much everyone.

I think if we can't get our own individual computers, having something like a checklist of which files and folders to bring with you so that you can setup your configs and huds really fast would be good. Other than that, being able to stream or at least record mumble/stv together for casting would be great. Even if we don't get any actual casters, I'm sure it'd be really nice if we could just get people from other teams doing play-by-play.

Biggest thing I think is getting the date down a lot earlier in advance so that it's easier for people to commit. I think we could've had at least 36+ players if we knew the date a couple months in advance.[/quote]

We could always open up donations for people who had extra stuff to throw in a prize pool.
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#8
1 Frags +

Have it at a more road trip friendly time so that I can make it

Have it at a more road trip friendly time so that I can make it
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#9
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**Definitely bring your own keyboard**

**Definitely bring your own keyboard**
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#10
11 Frags +

I'm prolly gonna learn Chinese before the next one

I'm prolly gonna learn Chinese before the next one
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#11
1 Frags +

Spades is on his way home, so is Spyro.

Points I hastily remembered as I was falling asleep:

Possibly make it a 2-day event. That way more teams can compete and we won't be under heavy time deadlines.

Venue didn't have enough burgers for everyone, and that became an obvious issue. Definitely make sure they're prepared next time.

Have a stream. Would like to learn how to set that up. Who wants to cast? Would need to remember my brother's camcorder at the very least.

Might remember more stuff as people post. Aas for copying configs, I copied my entire cfg and custom folders to my flash drive so if I had to play, I could just delete everything and replace it with the working stuff from my computer.

Spades is on his way home, so is Spyro.

Points I hastily remembered as I was falling asleep:

Possibly make it a 2-day event. That way more teams can compete and we won't be under heavy time deadlines.

Venue didn't have enough burgers for everyone, and that became an obvious issue. Definitely make sure they're prepared next time.

Have a stream. Would like to learn how to set that up. Who wants to cast? Would need to remember my brother's camcorder at the very least.

Might remember more stuff as people post. Aas for copying configs, I copied my entire cfg and custom folders to my flash drive so if I had to play, I could just delete everything and replace it with the working stuff from my computer.
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#12
2 Frags +

I'd try my hand at casting 100%. I think Luc and I would slay casting, when we're not busying slaying teams B)

2 day sounds good.

2 day event would mean more TF2 if we got all or most of the before finals done on Saturday, Sunday can be playoffs and best of 5 because we'd have more time

I'd try my hand at casting 100%. I think Luc and I would slay casting, when we're not busying slaying teams B)

2 day sounds good.

2 day event would mean more TF2 if we got all or most of the before finals done on Saturday, Sunday can be playoffs and best of 5 because we'd have more time
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#13
5 Frags +

I think mangachu had a good point of possibly just making it like a monthly meet up as well, save the bigger stuff for a bigger event but would be cool to still do a monthly meet up thing and pick teams with captains or whatever and play pug games and chill

I think mangachu had a good point of possibly just making it like a monthly meet up as well, save the bigger stuff for a bigger event but would be cool to still do a monthly meet up thing and pick teams with captains or whatever and play pug games and chill
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#14
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lucrativeI think mangachu had a good point of possibly just making it like a monthly meet up as well, save the bigger stuff for a bigger event but would be cool to still do a monthly meet up thing and pick teams with captains or whatever and play pug games and chill

I think once a month might be a tad much. I think maybe 2 months. With school and work for everyone, it might be tough to get a consistent number of players showing up if it's too often.

[quote=lucrative]I think mangachu had a good point of possibly just making it like a monthly meet up as well, save the bigger stuff for a bigger event but would be cool to still do a monthly meet up thing and pick teams with captains or whatever and play pug games and chill[/quote]

I think once a month might be a tad much. I think maybe 2 months. With school and work for everyone, it might be tough to get a consistent number of players showing up if it's too often.
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#15
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Simply booking the PCs for PUGs (No food or anything extra) would be much easier to do, and I could do that often, but I do have school to consider. September and October are going to be awkward months for me. It would be fun to grab 12 or so PCs just to screw around with whomever can show up.

What I'd do is collect your $$$ then book accordingly. Typically though, the venue doesn't open until 3. So if I got 7 hours again, we'd be able to play until 10. It all depends, I guess. I'm probably too tired to be thinking about this stuff effectively.

Simply booking the PCs for PUGs (No food or anything extra) would be much easier to do, and I could do that often, but I do have school to consider. September and October are going to be awkward months for me. It would be fun to grab 12 or so PCs just to screw around with whomever can show up.

What I'd do is collect your $$$ then book accordingly. Typically though, the venue doesn't open until 3. So if I got 7 hours again, we'd be able to play until 10. It all depends, I guess. I'm probably too tired to be thinking about this stuff effectively.
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#16
1 Frags +

I would just make a strawpoll and see who's available at what times or which day is best suited for everyone.

I would just make a strawpoll and see who's available at what times or which day is best suited for everyone.
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#17
3 Frags +

I bounced around this idea to Thickney, Spades and spaghetti last night. The possibility of having seasonal LANs with the 13 PCs with no prizes, then after the last seasonal LAN have a "championship" LAN with a PC per player and bigger prizes seeing as the LANs before it would have generated the money, + the money from sign ups for champ LAN. The championship LAN could be the "big" one where we drive to get as many players too as possible, and email zowie or some other company for prizes.

I know that sounds pretty #eSports

I bounced around this idea to Thickney, Spades and spaghetti last night. The possibility of having seasonal LANs with the 13 PCs with no prizes, then after the last seasonal LAN have a "championship" LAN with a PC per player and bigger prizes seeing as the LANs before it would have generated the money, + the money from sign ups for champ LAN. The championship LAN could be the "big" one where we drive to get as many players too as possible, and email zowie or some other company for prizes.

I know that sounds pretty #eSports
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#18
1 Frags +

I bought the prizes, and if I budget for prizes, will continue to do that. I want to have a track record of successful events before I even consider approaching someone to sponsor an event.

First thing I want to do is make a website.

Any criticisms about the venue other than the monitors? I covered food. Anyone got any other points? I want to compile feedback I can send to the venue as well. Not only things we can consider in the future for events.

I bought the prizes, and if I budget for prizes, will continue to do that. I want to have a track record of successful events before I even consider approaching someone to sponsor an event.

First thing I want to do is make a website.

Any criticisms about the venue other than the monitors? I covered food. Anyone got any other points? I want to compile feedback I can send to the venue as well. Not only things we can consider in the future for events.
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#19
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Oh my b, I thought entry fees covered the prizes.

The venue was great, The only complaint I had was the monitors, but that's it, the chairs were excellent, the desk space was enough for me sense, I don't know about others.

The keyboards and mice were awful, but that's an easy fix by actually packing my own next time.

I really would of liked to at least have the STV on the projector, even to just do a fun couch cast despite there not actually being a stream, but a stream is something I'd like at future events if we allowed to set one up.

Oh my b, I thought entry fees covered the prizes.

The venue was great, The only complaint I had was the monitors, but that's it, the chairs were excellent, the desk space was enough for me sense, I don't know about others.

The keyboards and mice were awful, but that's an easy fix by actually packing my own next time.

I really would of liked to at least have the STV on the projector, even to just do a fun couch cast despite there not actually being a stream, but a stream is something I'd like at future events if we allowed to set one up.
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#20
3 Frags +

for a first lan i'd say that was one of the best days tf2 related. everyone i met there was super nice and it was just organized way better than i originally thought i'd be. definitely going to the next one.

for a first lan i'd say that was one of the best days tf2 related. everyone i met there was super nice and it was just organized way better than i originally thought i'd be. definitely going to the next one.
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#21
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The only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.

The only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.
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#22
3 Frags +
DayNifeThe only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.

I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh

[quote=DayNife]The only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.[/quote]

I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh
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#23
2 Frags +

The event was solid enough that I would not hesitate to drive up for future ones. As said above, exceptionally well done for a first event.
One suggestion I'd like to put forth is to make it much easier to save your settings between matches: I know I delayed our match vs. RCMP a good 5-10 minutes because our team swapped computers and I had to undo and redo a lot of config options. A fresh jumpdrive that everyone can make a folder on would probably work well enough for future events.

The event was solid enough that I would not hesitate to drive up for future ones. As said above, exceptionally well done for a first event.
One suggestion I'd like to put forth is to make it much easier to save your settings between matches: I know I delayed our match vs. RCMP a good 5-10 minutes because our team swapped computers and I had to undo and redo a lot of config options. A fresh jumpdrive that everyone can make a folder on would probably work well enough for future events.
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#24
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lucrativeDayNifeThe only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.
I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh

Quality is really important, yes but I don't think you can ignore the players who have to commute with all their gear to the location. I don't think anyone would prefer a bad venue with a good location, but especially for people taking public transit, a good way to get to the place is helpful. A 20 minute walk from the station isn't terrible, but if we have to bring our own monitors on top of keyboards, mouses and headsets, it suddenly becomes a lot harder to do without a ride there.

This is really only a problem if we use the same venue again and we have to bring our own 120/144hz monitors but it's something to keep in mind.

[quote=lucrative][quote=DayNife]The only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.[/quote]

I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh[/quote]

Quality is really important, yes but I don't think you can ignore the players who have to commute with all their gear to the location. I don't think anyone would prefer a bad venue with a good location, but especially for people taking public transit, a good way to get to the place is helpful. A 20 minute walk from the station isn't terrible, but if we have to bring our own monitors on top of keyboards, mouses and headsets, it suddenly becomes a lot harder to do without a ride there.

This is really only a problem if we use the same venue again and we have to bring our own 120/144hz monitors but it's something to keep in mind.
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#25
1 Frags +
DayNifelucrativeDayNifeThe only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.
I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh

Quality is really important, yes but I don't think you can ignore the players who have to commute with all their gear to the location. I don't think anyone would prefer a bad venue with a good location, but especially for people taking public transit, a good way to get to the place is helpful. A 20 minute walk from the station isn't terrible, but if we have to bring our own monitors on top of keyboards, mouses and headsets, it suddenly becomes a lot harder to do without a ride there.

This is really only a problem if we use the same venue again and we have to bring our own 120/144hz monitors but it's something to keep in mind.

I mean thats kind of the nature of LAN events tbh, obviously not everyone has access to cars and stuff but every LAN event is pretty much like this unless sponsors are flying you somewhere haha if the dates are set longer in advance its really easy to organize car pools with people, I would even pick people up from the closest station and bring them to the venue and stuff like that

[quote=DayNife][quote=lucrative][quote=DayNife]The only problem with the Venue aside from the monitors I think was the location. It's tough to get to by anything other than car. That aside, the place was pretty great. Like Sheo said though, having a stream and/or an stv on the projector would've been really cool.[/quote]

I think the quality of then venue greatly outweighs the inconvenience of the location tbh[/quote]

Quality is really important, yes but I don't think you can ignore the players who have to commute with all their gear to the location. I don't think anyone would prefer a bad venue with a good location, but especially for people taking public transit, a good way to get to the place is helpful. A 20 minute walk from the station isn't terrible, but if we have to bring our own monitors on top of keyboards, mouses and headsets, it suddenly becomes a lot harder to do without a ride there.

This is really only a problem if we use the same venue again and we have to bring our own 120/144hz monitors but it's something to keep in mind.[/quote]

I mean thats kind of the nature of LAN events tbh, obviously not everyone has access to cars and stuff but every LAN event is pretty much like this unless sponsors are flying you somewhere haha if the dates are set longer in advance its really easy to organize car pools with people, I would even pick people up from the closest station and bring them to the venue and stuff like that
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