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Official UGC Platinum Season 11 Predictions, Power Rankings, and Player Rankings
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HildrethThePretenderThank you for not calling me bad.
I will bring back my Hot or Not list and correct this great injustice.

Seriously this is the best write-up I've read about UGC, thanks for doing it Soap. Interesting how Paragon is rated over Max! Maybe scrims have shown different stats but Max has been destroying UGC + the world consistently for the past 6 months, surely this makes him the man to watch?

I am willing to take the hits if it means having that epic article series back.

[quote=Hildreth][quote=ThePretender]Thank you for not calling me bad.[/quote]

I will bring back my Hot or Not list and correct this great injustice.

Seriously this is the best write-up I've read about UGC, thanks for doing it Soap. Interesting how Paragon is rated over Max! Maybe scrims have shown different stats but Max has been destroying UGC + the world consistently for the past 6 months, surely this makes him the man to watch?[/quote]

I am willing to take the hits if it means having that epic article series back.
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#32
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Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.

Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.
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finnaIs Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.

There's no denying that the people you mentioned are good, but if you ask any high level player who the best pyro is, at least in terms of DM, it's undeniably satan. That dude is a monster.

[quote=finna]Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.[/quote]

There's no denying that the people you mentioned are good, but if you ask any high level player who the best pyro is, at least in terms of DM, it's undeniably satan. That dude is a monster.
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DeadboltfinnaIs Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.
There's no denying that the people you mentioned are good, but if you ask any high level player who the best pyro is, at least in terms of DM, it's undeniably satan. That dude is a monster.

Its....hard to say why. From playing against him it is the insane DM and gamesense, but at other times he comes from the flanks at perfect times to fuck us. It seems like he is always in the right place at the right time. Where TMP is almost exclusively aggressive, Satan finds the perfect balance, and has the DM of TMP to match it.

TMP preaches by Satan's gameplay. From the perspective of every other pyro in plat, I have heard nothing negative about Satan.

(Using TMP as a reference simply because the conversations came up all the time in s9)

finnaIs Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.

Fathom is not starting this season after the death of DeathForce9. Rumors are that DC mercilessly killed off the team after losing in MGE, but I don't know if that is true.

But yea, fathom is on mTs' roster right now, whether he is going to start or not is undetermined.

[quote=Deadbolt][quote=finna]Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.[/quote]

There's no denying that the people you mentioned are good, but if you ask any high level player who the best pyro is, at least in terms of DM, it's undeniably satan. That dude is a monster.[/quote]

Its....hard to say why. From playing against him it is the insane DM and gamesense, but at other times he comes from the flanks at perfect times to fuck us. It seems like he is always in the right place at the right time. Where TMP is almost exclusively aggressive, Satan finds the perfect balance, and has the DM of TMP to match it.

TMP preaches by Satan's gameplay. From the perspective of every other pyro in plat, I have heard nothing negative about Satan.

(Using TMP as a reference simply because the conversations came up all the time in s9)

[quote=finna]Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro? Huey Lewis and Cygnus are pretty great. I don't know who is the best, but I don't think anyone is unquestionably the best. Also, what happened to Fathom, he used to be my favorite pyro to watch.[/quote]

Fathom is not starting this season after the death of DeathForce9. Rumors are that DC mercilessly killed off the team after losing in MGE, but I don't know if that is true.

But yea, fathom is on mTs' roster right now, whether he is going to start or not is undetermined.
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finnaIs Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro?

yes

[quote=finna]Is Satan really the UNQUESTIONABLE best pyro?[/quote]

yes
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http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.

http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.
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#37
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Good luck guys! Btw Malent Heavies for DMS now.

Good luck guys! Btw Malent Heavies for DMS now.
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#38
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Collidehttp://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that

[quote=Collide]http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.[/quote]

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that
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#39
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SoapCollidehttp://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that

I was gonna say, he got twice the heals of Huey. I do think Satan is the best but I didn't know it was that set in stone.

[quote=Soap][quote=Collide]http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.[/quote]

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that[/quote]
I was gonna say, he got twice the heals of Huey. I do think Satan is the best but I didn't know it was that set in stone.
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#40
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I don't understand why you would just replace Geosus with fathom as if I had just written the wrong name, neither argo nor I intended on putting geosus at #2 pyro

if you wanna be accurate, remove him and move everyone up, and put milkman at new #5

I don't understand why you would just replace Geosus with fathom as if I had just written the wrong name, neither argo nor I intended on putting geosus at #2 pyro

if you wanna be accurate, remove him and move everyone up, and put milkman at new #5
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#41
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big spamfest & street hoops!

big spamfest & street hoops!
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Our last two scrims vs ginyu paragon beast moded too, perhaps reason for this ranking that I wholly support <3

http://logs.tf/80906
http://logs.tf/65865

Our last two scrims vs ginyu paragon beast moded too, perhaps reason for this ranking that I wholly support <3


http://logs.tf/80906
http://logs.tf/65865
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#43
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Meanwhile, a wild Playing Naked has appeared and seems ready to go: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=4472

Maybe now there won't be any Platinum byes.

Meanwhile, a wild Playing Naked has appeared and seems ready to go: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=4472

Maybe now there won't be any Platinum byes.
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#44
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someone let me roster ride
help

someone let me roster ride
help
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Soap
snake kryptonite? Gankmeister? I get when you are saying though. It just felt like most of the players on your team, I have seen hanging out in the bonus mumble. That being said, I can't say for certain who started the team and who the original members were, that is why we said "arguably."

well for future reference gank is just a friend of firefly and snake was on bonus in s6. the others are just friends that like to always hangout and play games/socialize together on the daily.

[quote=Soap]

snake kryptonite? Gankmeister? I get when you are saying though. It just felt like most of the players on your team, I have seen hanging out in the bonus mumble. That being said, I can't say for certain who started the team and who the original members were, that is why we said "arguably."[/quote]

well for future reference gank is just a friend of firefly and snake was on bonus in s6. the others are just friends that like to always hangout and play games/socialize together on the daily.
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#46
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This was awesome :)
Great job!

This was awesome :)
Great job!
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#47
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The ugc admins, they did something good for once and actually put us back in gold!

The ugc admins, they did something good for once and actually put us back in gold!
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SoapCollidehttp://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that

If you look at the heal discrepancy between the two heavies you'll figure out where Satan was able to get those heals from.

Good article except for the rankings. The idea that anyone would think mustardoverlord has any informed opinion on who's the best at each class is unsettling. Besides in the end who's the best on one class is not very consequential. I guess it is fun to argue about it though =/

[quote=Soap][quote=Collide]http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.[/quote]

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that[/quote]

If you look at the heal discrepancy between the two heavies you'll figure out where Satan was able to get those heals from.

Good article except for the rankings. The idea that anyone would think mustardoverlord has any informed opinion on who's the best at each class is unsettling. Besides in the end who's the best on one class is not very consequential. I guess it is fun to argue about it though =/
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pudding_cupSoapCollidehttp://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that

If you look at the heal discrepancy between the two heavies you'll figure out where Satan was able to get those heals from.

Yeah but Pudding cup put out almost 2000 more heals AND the heavy with less heals ranked better in every possible way. Obviously stats aren't everything but it isn't like their heavy is suffering as a result.

[quote=pudding_cup][quote=Soap][quote=Collide]http://logs.tf/49508

Satan is the Jesus of pyros. Idk how he does it but he sneaks behind entire teams without them knowing.[/quote]

Looks like pudding cup likes the pyro heals. Imagine that[/quote]

If you look at the heal discrepancy between the two heavies you'll figure out where Satan was able to get those heals from.
[/quote]

Yeah but Pudding cup put out almost 2000 more heals AND the heavy with less heals ranked better in every possible way. Obviously stats aren't everything but it isn't like their heavy is suffering as a result.
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#50
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That log is just our team getting pooped on honestly. It wasn't a 5-5. It was a 5-0, team switch, 5-0. Logs can't really show the timing of deaths, and when your more important players die at bad times it opens up a ton of opportunities for everyone on the other team to go crazy, regardless of heals.

Satan is the best though :)

More on topic, I hope you guys continue the articles. This was a great read!

That log is just our team getting pooped on honestly. It wasn't a 5-5. It was a 5-0, team switch, 5-0. Logs can't really show the timing of deaths, and when your more important players die at bad times it opens up a ton of opportunities for everyone on the other team to go crazy, regardless of heals.

Satan is the best though :)

More on topic, I hope you guys continue the articles. This was a great read!
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HueyLewisThat log is just our team getting pooped on honestly. It wasn't a 5-5. It was a 5-0, team switch, 5-0. Logs can't really show the timing of deaths, and when your more important players die at bad times it opens up a ton of opportunities for everyone on the other team to go crazy, regardless of heals.

Satan is the best though :)

More on topic, I hope you guys continue the articles. This was a great read!

Thanks, I should be doing Hot or Not's (course if hildreth wants to do them I wont stop him), and power rankings throughout.

Not doing anything for pre season because its Borneo.

[quote=HueyLewis]That log is just our team getting pooped on honestly. It wasn't a 5-5. It was a 5-0, team switch, 5-0. Logs can't really show the timing of deaths, and when your more important players die at bad times it opens up a ton of opportunities for everyone on the other team to go crazy, regardless of heals.

Satan is the best though :)

More on topic, I hope you guys continue the articles. This was a great read![/quote]

Thanks, I should be doing Hot or Not's (course if hildreth wants to do them I wont stop him), and power rankings throughout.

Not doing anything for pre season because its Borneo.
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#52
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enigmalose harbleu lose

Your wish has been granted.

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/18175/2169924-kappa.png

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Too bad it's only preseason, and no one tried.
[quote=enigma]lose harbleu lose[/quote]
Your wish has been granted. [img]http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/18175/2169924-kappa.png[/img]
[spoiler]Too bad it's only preseason, and no one tried.[/spoiler]
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nice writeup lads, Hoping to see a lot of pyro PoV's on youtube this season from Huey & DJC.

nice writeup lads, Hoping to see a lot of pyro PoV's on youtube this season from Huey & DJC.
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Flakxnice writeup lads, Hoping to see a lot of pyro PoV's on youtube this season from Huey & DJC.

Oh, really good point :D

This season is going to be a great one to watch. Should be pretty damn amazing.

This article was a ton of fun to read. Great work.

gl, hf!

[quote=Flakx]nice writeup lads, Hoping to see a lot of pyro PoV's on youtube this season from Huey & DJC.[/quote]

Oh, really good point :D

This season is going to be a great one to watch. Should be pretty damn amazing.

This article was a ton of fun to read. Great work.

gl, hf!
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#55
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I'll get some POVs up soon! We went into borneo blind Monday night so it wasn't necessarily something I wanted to stream/upload, but I'm gonna try to put a scrim and match on youtube each week from here on out.

I'll get some POVs up soon! We went into borneo blind Monday night so it wasn't necessarily something I wanted to stream/upload, but I'm gonna try to put a scrim and match on youtube each week from here on out.
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#56
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I like how much soap is mentioning me in the comments as a comparison even though I don't play anymore.

I'm excited to see some of the outcomes of this year. I'm personally pulling for mTs this year to win, but funny enough I'm also really excited about Mustardoverlord's team. Good writeup!

I like how much soap is mentioning me in the comments as a comparison even though I don't play anymore.

I'm excited to see some of the outcomes of this year. I'm personally pulling for mTs this year to win, but funny enough I'm also really excited about Mustardoverlord's team. Good writeup!
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#57
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I was thinking of doing a similar thing with EU Plat, but so much writing ;-;

Excellent writeup!

I was thinking of doing a similar thing with EU Plat, but so much writing ;-;

Excellent writeup!
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Great article, enjoyed the read. I was disappointed in the appraisal of Frank West, whom I consider to be easily one of the top five spies and one of the top ten smartest players, he'll pick up his gameplay during the season. Also I'm hoping to see a top tier Djc frag video with sick reflects and crazy pyro plays ;)

Great article, enjoyed the read. I was disappointed in the appraisal of Frank West, whom I consider to be easily one of the top five spies and one of the top ten smartest players, he'll pick up his gameplay during the season. Also I'm hoping to see a top tier Djc frag video with sick reflects and crazy pyro plays ;)
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#59
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Nice writeup. Well written and stuff.

Nice writeup. Well written and stuff.
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#60
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RhetoricalAnarchistGreat article, enjoyed the read. I was disappointed in the appraisal of Frank West, whom I consider to be easily one of the top five spies and one of the top ten smartest players, he'll pick up his gameplay during the season. Also I'm hoping to see a top tier Djc frag video with sick reflects and crazy pyro plays ;)

frank west has consistently been the worst spy in platinum since his first season on ginyu, I wouldn't count on it

[quote=RhetoricalAnarchist]Great article, enjoyed the read. I was disappointed in the appraisal of Frank West, whom I consider to be easily one of the top five spies and one of the top ten smartest players, he'll pick up his gameplay during the season. Also I'm hoping to see a top tier Djc frag video with sick reflects and crazy pyro plays ;)[/quote]

frank west has consistently been the worst spy in platinum since his first season on ginyu, I wouldn't count on it
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