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MAJOR TF2 update for 4/18/24 (Windows/Linux x64)
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Patch Notes
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Via the Steam Community:

Valve- Added 64-bit support for Windows/Linux client and server
- Should include performance improvements for most users
- Bugs can be reported here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues

- Fixed an exploit related to uploading invalid custom decals that would crash other clients

Rumor has it:

- avast!, AVG, and Bitdefender users should all be aware that false positives are likely to be triggered with the x64 .exes included as part of today's update (including vrad.exe and shadercompile.exe)
- Instructions on reporting affected files as false positives can be found here

- As mentioned above, the addition of 64-bit support is exclusive to Windows and Linux, and the x86-64/AMD64 architecture
- The status quo of TF2 being unplayable for macOS users on Intel Macs running macOS Catalina (10.15) or later, and Macs with Apple Silicon still remains true after this update. There is no word on whether an AMD64 and/or ARM64 port will occur for Mac users, but given inaction up to now plus Counter-Strike 2's abandonment of the Mac, it appears unlikely

- Additionally, a round of updated localization files have snuck in, made possible in part by contributions from Translators Like You - Thank You

- Size is ~315 MB - data capped users should be aware

Via [url=https://steamcommunity.com/games/TF2/announcements/detail/4210378060872683469]the Steam Community[/url]:

[quote=Valve]- Added 64-bit support for Windows/Linux client and server
- Should include performance improvements for most users
- Bugs can be reported here: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues

- Fixed an exploit related to uploading invalid custom decals that would crash other clients[/quote]

Rumor has it:

- [b]avast!, AVG, and Bitdefender users should all be aware that false positives are likely to be triggered with the x64 .exes included as part of today's update (including vrad.exe and shadercompile.exe)[/b]
- [b]Instructions on reporting affected files as false positives [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1c7igik/warningpsa_avastavg_and_bitdefender_antivirus_are/]can be found here[/url][/b]

- As mentioned above, the addition of 64-bit support is exclusive to Windows and Linux, and the x86-64/AMD64 architecture
- The status quo of TF2 being unplayable for macOS users on Intel Macs running macOS Catalina (10.15) or later, and Macs with Apple Silicon still remains true after this update. There is no word on whether an AMD64 and/or ARM64 port will occur for Mac users, but given inaction up to now plus Counter-Strike 2's abandonment of the Mac, it appears unlikely

- Additionally, [url=https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking-TF2/commit/14a9f93ee0c91693547dfebb376d9e391bec49e4]a round of updated localization files[/url] have snuck in, made possible in part by contributions from [url=https://valve.crowdin.com/]Translators Like You - Thank You[/url]

- [b]Size is ~315 MB - data capped users should be aware[/b]
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#2
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posting in a legendary thread

posting in a legendary thread
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#3
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official rip to prec, you had a good run

official rip to prec, you had a good run
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#4
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good update

good update
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#5
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did they update demo support yet to mirror prec's features yet?

did they update demo support yet to mirror prec's features yet?
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#6
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GOAT HOLY SHIT

GOAT HOLY SHIT
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#7
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Note that it's going to take some time to get all the server and client plugins ported over, I know a lot of the casting ones are near completion but no idea about the server side.

Huge step in the right direction for Valve though and I'm sure it will make developing a touch easier going forward.

Edit: CastingEssentials now functional on 64-bit with new build: https://github.com/drunderscore/CastingEssentialsNext/releases/tag/next-1

Note that it's going to take some time to get all the server and client plugins ported over, I know a lot of the casting ones are near completion but no idea about the server side.

Huge step in the right direction for Valve though and I'm sure it will make developing a touch easier going forward.

Edit: CastingEssentials now functional on 64-bit with new build: https://github.com/drunderscore/CastingEssentialsNext/releases/tag/next-1
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#8
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Things that are broken that I've tested:

P-Rec (RIP)
Lawena
HLAE (Most likely to get fixed, already reached out about it)
SVR
DXLevel 81 (WTF)
BETAS REQUIRE A WORKAROUND

Things that are NOT broken:

Demos from July 26th Onward

Things that are broken that I've tested:

P-Rec (RIP)
Lawena
HLAE (Most likely to get fixed, already reached out about it)
SVR
[b]DXLevel 81[/b] (WTF)
[b]BETAS REQUIRE A WORKAROUND[/b]

Things that are NOT broken:

Demos from July 26th Onward
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#9
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:dancing crab gif: free fps day

:dancing crab gif: free fps day
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#10
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Blu2th1000Things that are broken that I've tested:
DXLevel 81 (WTF)

just played a pub on dx8, works fine
also frames are insane lol 500fps+ in a 24 man pub

[quote=Blu2th1000]Things that are broken that I've tested:
[b]DXLevel 81[/b] (WTF)
[/quote]
just played a pub on dx8, works fine
also frames are insane lol 500fps+ in a 24 man pub
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#11
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the end of skill issue crashes on tempus, i can't believe it

the end of skill issue crashes on tempus, i can't believe it
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#12
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zhernBlu2th1000Things that are broken that I've tested:
DXLevel 81 (WTF)
just played a pub on dx8, works fine
also frames are insane lol 500fps+ in a 24 man pub

ig its just a problem on my end, i couldnt launch the game in any dxlevel under 90

[quote=zhern][quote=Blu2th1000]Things that are broken that I've tested:
[b]DXLevel 81[/b] (WTF)
[/quote]
just played a pub on dx8, works fine
also frames are insane lol 500fps+ in a 24 man pub[/quote]

ig its just a problem on my end, i couldnt launch the game in any dxlevel under 90
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#13
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Blu2th1000Things that are broken that I've tested:

Lawena
HLAE (Most likely to get fixed, already reached out about it)

looooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy

[quote=Blu2th1000]Things that are broken that I've tested:

Lawena
HLAE (Most likely to get fixed, already reached out about it)
[/quote]
looooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy
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#14
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GrapeJuiceIIIlooooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy

get a hold of urself

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]looooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy[/quote]
get a hold of urself
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#15
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no dude i am ANGRY !

no dude i am ANGRY !
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#16
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GrapeJuiceIIIlooooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy

You should be able to download the old version (manifest ids can be found here) using depotdownloader / steamcmd / steam console.

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]
looooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy[/quote]

You should be able to download the old version (manifest ids can be found [url=https://steamdb.info/app/440/depots/]here[/url]) using depotdownloader / steamcmd / steam console.
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#17
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turbochad69GrapeJuiceIIIlooooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy
You should be able to download the old version (manifest ids can be found here) using depotdownloader / steamcmd / steam console.

both broke without even having downloaded the update yet lol. no idea how tf that happens, maybe its a CRAZY coincidence but ggs

[quote=turbochad69][quote=GrapeJuiceIII]
looooool of course this update comes out the day im making an RJWeekly video and need both these programs looooool im so happy[/quote]

You should be able to download the old version (manifest ids can be found [url=https://steamdb.info/app/440/depots/]here[/url]) using depotdownloader / steamcmd / steam console.[/quote]
both broke without even having downloaded the update yet lol. no idea how tf that happens, maybe its a CRAZY coincidence but ggs
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#18
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was the in-game automatic demo recording improved/fixed? or do we just have to deal with that now?

was the in-game automatic demo recording improved/fixed? or do we just have to deal with that now?
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billwwas the in-game automatic demo recording improved/fixed? or do we just have to deal with that now?

im currently figuring out a workaround to get actually good footage not through OBS from in game. I'm going to test out the startmovie and endmovie commands. I imagine they would work fine since lawena was just a dedicated client for those commands

[quote=billw]was the in-game automatic demo recording improved/fixed? or do we just have to deal with that now?[/quote]

im currently figuring out a workaround to get actually good footage not through OBS from in game. I'm going to test out the startmovie and endmovie commands. I imagine they would work fine since lawena was just a dedicated client for those commands
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tf2pickup.org
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Please some GOAT fix lawena; Pretty please :pray:

Please some GOAT fix lawena; Pretty please :pray:
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Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?

I can interact with the UI and even load trw but it's all black.

Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?

I can interact with the UI and even load trw but it's all black.
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jp_Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?

yea, my game blackscreens and crashes on launch with vulkan

[quote=jp_]Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?[/quote]
yea, my game blackscreens and crashes on launch with vulkan
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jp_Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?

the dxvk garbage only works on dxlevel 90 / 95 / 100, black screen on 80 or 81. honestly wouldn't recommend using dxvk on windows anyways.

[quote=jp_]Does anyone else get a black screen with the launch option -vulkan?[/quote]
the dxvk garbage only works on dxlevel 90 / 95 / 100, black screen on 80 or 81. honestly wouldn't recommend using dxvk on windows anyways.
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oh baby

oh baby
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#25
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On dxlevel 95, dxvk seems to give better frames. All anecdotal, too lazy to grab a benchmark. To my eyes the demos i checked ran a sight better than on just dx95 and 64bit

On dxlevel 95, dxvk seems to give better frames. All anecdotal, too lazy to grab a benchmark. To my eyes the demos i checked ran a sight better than on just dx95 and 64bit
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TeoOn dxlevel 95, dxvk seems to give better frames. All anecdotal, too lazy to grab a benchmark. To my eyes the demos i checked ran a sight better than on just dx95 and 64bit

https://youtu.be/mWkpUD_l4AQ?t=187

Kind of curious why there's a random 20% bump for this guy.

================

Maybe we could start using the benchmark from shounic?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xbuiBnZb301EXFyYuQP17KS21AWM_v5o/view

==========================================================

Ran some benchmarks, -vulkan is a couple frames faster on my system.

dx90
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.534 seconds 177.28 fps ( 5.64 ms/f) 25.838 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.670 seconds 301.87 fps ( 3.31 ms/f) 33.649 fps variability
--------------------------
dx90-> Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.775 seconds 179.32 fps ( 5.58 ms/f) 25.408 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.438 seconds 306.13 fps ( 3.27 ms/f) 32.704 fps variability

====================================

DX95
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.270 seconds 177.98 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 26.478 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.755 seconds 300.34 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 33.377 fps variability
------------------------------------
Dx95->vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.359 seconds 177.75 fps ( 5.63 ms/f) 26.287 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.811 seconds 299.33 fps ( 3.34 ms/f) 35.743 fps variability

=====================================

dx98
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.333 seconds 177.81 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 25.768 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.774 seconds 299.99 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 32.764 fps variability
------------------------------------
DX98->Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.829 seconds 179.18 fps ( 5.58 ms/f) 25.393 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.587 seconds 303.38 fps ( 3.30 ms/f) 32.516 fps variability

===================================

dx100
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.305 seconds 177.89 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 25.812 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.757 seconds 300.30 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 34.000 fps variability
----------------------------------
dx100->Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.986 seconds 178.75 fps ( 5.59 ms/f) 25.305 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.631 seconds 302.57 fps ( 3.31 ms/f) 33.383 fps variability
[quote=Teo]On dxlevel 95, dxvk seems to give better frames. All anecdotal, too lazy to grab a benchmark. To my eyes the demos i checked ran a sight better than on just dx95 and 64bit[/quote]

https://youtu.be/mWkpUD_l4AQ?t=187

Kind of curious why there's a random 20% bump for this guy.


================

Maybe we could start using the benchmark from shounic?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xbuiBnZb301EXFyYuQP17KS21AWM_v5o/view

==========================================================

Ran some benchmarks, -vulkan is a couple frames faster on my system.


[code]
dx90
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.534 seconds 177.28 fps ( 5.64 ms/f) 25.838 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.670 seconds 301.87 fps ( 3.31 ms/f) 33.649 fps variability
--------------------------
dx90-> Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.775 seconds 179.32 fps ( 5.58 ms/f) 25.408 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.438 seconds 306.13 fps ( 3.27 ms/f) 32.704 fps variability

====================================

DX95
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.270 seconds 177.98 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 26.478 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.755 seconds 300.34 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 33.377 fps variability
------------------------------------
Dx95->vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.359 seconds 177.75 fps ( 5.63 ms/f) 26.287 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.811 seconds 299.33 fps ( 3.34 ms/f) 35.743 fps variability

=====================================

dx98
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.333 seconds 177.81 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 25.768 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.774 seconds 299.99 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 32.764 fps variability
------------------------------------
DX98->Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.829 seconds 179.18 fps ( 5.58 ms/f) 25.393 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.587 seconds 303.38 fps ( 3.30 ms/f) 32.516 fps variability

===================================

dx100
sbmrk---11795 frames 66.305 seconds 177.89 fps ( 5.62 ms/f) 25.812 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.757 seconds 300.30 fps ( 3.33 ms/f) 34.000 fps variability
----------------------------------
dx100->Vulkan
sbmrk---11795 frames 65.986 seconds 178.75 fps ( 5.59 ms/f) 25.305 fps variability
sbmrk24--5032 frames 16.631 seconds 302.57 fps ( 3.31 ms/f) 33.383 fps variability
[/code]
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#27
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aaaaaaaand i cant launch the game

aaaaaaaand i cant launch the game
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#28
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for anyone still using -r_emulate_gl
its now just -gl (at least on 64bit)
i know it solved crashing for some people before

for anyone still using -r_emulate_gl
its now just -gl (at least on 64bit)
i know it solved crashing for some people before
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tf2pickup.org
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deliPlease some GOAT fix lawena; Pretty please :pray:

https://github.com/quanticc/lawena-recording-tool/blob/v4.1.x/src/main/java/lwrt/CLWindows.java
at minimum this file must be changed as it mentions an old tf2 executable, not sure if more, worth testing
+ app recompile after change

update: https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1096214/lawena-64-bit-fix

[quote=deli]Please some GOAT fix lawena; Pretty please :pray:[/quote]
https://github.com/quanticc/lawena-recording-tool/blob/v4.1.x/src/main/java/lwrt/CLWindows.java
at minimum this file must be changed as it mentions an old tf2 executable, not sure if more, worth testing
+ app recompile after change

update: https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1096214/lawena-64-bit-fix
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#30
4 Frags +

guys i cant scrim

guys i cant scrim
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