Fumbling around with the concept of becoming a trader main...
Is it possible to get the old hats from the crates as unusuals? Don't mind if the effects are the new stuff, but I don't like the new designs for the hats.
Anyone also trader main can show me the ropes?
Feel free to talk about TF2 trading, economy, etc here
Fumbling around with the concept of becoming a trader main...
Is it possible to get the old hats from the crates as unusuals? Don't mind if the effects are the new stuff, but I don't like the new designs for the hats.
Anyone also trader main can show me the ropes?
Feel free to talk about TF2 trading, economy, etc here
To answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).
To answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).
HerpTimTo answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).
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[quote=HerpTim]To answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).[/quote]
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pajaroHerpTimTo answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).
blud did not read past "is it possible to get the old"
I know americans are dense, but you have to be able to read or excercise basic logic, right? Or do americans not excercise in any way, shape or form? Older series crates have older hats...
[quote=pajaro][quote=HerpTim]To answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).[/quote]
blud did not read past "is it possible to get the old"[/quote]
I know americans are dense, but you have to be able to read or excercise basic logic, right? Or do americans not excercise in any way, shape or form? Older series crates have older hats...
pajaroHerpTimTo answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).
blud did not read past "is it possible to get the old"
Nicer way you could have said this. This is a safe space.
[quote=pajaro][quote=HerpTim]To answer you first question, yes you can. The effects vary from crate series to crate series, the ones which are most valuable (burning, scorching, energies) are from series 1 - 25 and 88 - 103. You can find the details about the other effects on the wiki (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual).[/quote]
blud did not read past "is it possible to get the old"[/quote]
Nicer way you could have said this. This is a safe space.
i used to do nothing but trade back in the day, ive dealt with items in every single price range excluding holy grail items like a burning TC and shit around that mark, and if you want my advice, avoid trading right now like the plague
low end items (which i would call anything worth less than 100 keys) are essentially impossible to make meaningful profit on in a reasonable amount of time due to the massive amount of automated trading bots that buy and sell these items for margins that are difficult to compete with, and even if you could compete with them it's often not enough of a price difference for buyers and sellers to consider waiting for a human to respond.
high end items nowadays are also just in the hands of massive backpacks of either legacy traders who dont sell anything for reasonable prices anymore, or are for sale by people genuinely using stolen credit cards to invest in the market and launder that money into BTC or some other form of clean cash.
halloween unusuals from the old school series of effects are especially inflated right now because of this. hats that you couldn't get someone to even spit on just a few years ago are suddenly being swapped between no-name randoms for trades of 1000's of keys worth of garbage, further inflating the value of all the other garbage that its being used to trade for
i used to do nothing but trade back in the day, ive dealt with items in every single price range excluding holy grail items like a burning TC and shit around that mark, and if you want my advice, avoid trading right now like the plague
low end items (which i would call anything worth less than 100 keys) are essentially impossible to make meaningful profit on in a reasonable amount of time due to the massive amount of automated trading bots that buy and sell these items for margins that are difficult to compete with, and even if you could compete with them it's often not enough of a price difference for buyers and sellers to consider waiting for a human to respond.
high end items nowadays are also just in the hands of massive backpacks of either legacy traders who dont sell anything for reasonable prices anymore, or are for sale by people genuinely using stolen credit cards to invest in the market and launder that money into BTC or some other form of clean cash.
halloween unusuals from the old school series of effects are especially inflated right now because of this. hats that you couldn't get someone to even spit on just a few years ago are suddenly being swapped between no-name randoms for trades of 1000's of keys worth of garbage, further inflating the value of all the other garbage that its being used to trade for
If you want something, get a job or do paid work; especially if you live in a first world country.
TF2's economy has been neglected by Valve and trading in any of their titles in order to attain more expensive items is not worth it. The ecosystem has been min-maxed and has become even more in favour of people buying in with real world money and selling out.
If you want something, get a job or do paid work; especially if you live in a first world country.
TF2's economy has been neglected by Valve and trading in any of their titles in order to attain more expensive items is not worth it. The ecosystem has been min-maxed and has become even more in favour of people buying in with real world money and selling out.
buy the squid hat if u have mega bux dat shit is going to the moon
buy the squid hat if u have mega bux dat shit is going to the moon
TF2 trading has been going for a long time so it's quite mature. Unlike what some people said, you can get old effects with new crates but only with Keyless Cosmetic Crates, otherwise yeah it's uncrate a given series. Read What you can (and cannot) find in Keyless Cosmetic Crates and TF2 Unusual Wiki is the best guide.
First of all, re: Crates. Unboxing crates is gambling. Straight up. Only unbox for fun. There is almost no chance you would make a profit. Only unbox if you really want to and have extra cash that you are going to instead throw into the street in exchange for used cigarette butts and you don't care if you get butts or gravel.
Okay that said. Trading can be fun and since it is mature there are a few guides that are helpful in two ways:
- Guides for trading
- Guides for not getting scammed
Both types are important to read up on. Don't get scammed. Discord is AWFUL for getting scammed. Anyone can impersonate anyone. Only discuss and execute a trade on steam. If someone wants to DM you on discord to talk a trade. Politely ask them to add you on steam and discuss it there. If they decline. Likely a scammer.
Good starting out guides:
Beginner's Guide to TF2 Trading
All in 1 Guide - Trading Basics + Scrap to Unusual + All Kinds of Scams.: Just a good starter's guide.
Current Scams And How To Avoid Them: old but still relevant
Advanced guides relevant to understanding items and rarity.
TF2 Statistics Guide: Unboxing and item stats pertaining to chances to get stuff that people are interested in.
Rare Items in Team Fortress 2
TF2 trading has been going for a long time so it's quite mature. Unlike what some people said, you can get old effects with new crates but only with Keyless Cosmetic Crates, otherwise yeah it's uncrate a given series. Read [url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731640447]What you can (and cannot) find in Keyless Cosmetic Crates[/url] and [url=https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Unusual]TF2 Unusual Wiki[/url] is the best guide.
First of all, re: Crates. Unboxing crates is gambling. Straight up. Only unbox for fun. There is almost no chance you would make a profit. Only unbox if you really want to and have extra cash that you are going to instead throw into the street in exchange for used cigarette butts and you don't care if you get butts or gravel.
Okay that said. Trading can be fun and since it is mature there are a few guides that are helpful in two ways:
[list]
[*] Guides for trading
[*] Guides for not getting scammed
[/list]
Both types are important to read up on. Don't get scammed. Discord is AWFUL for getting scammed. Anyone can impersonate anyone. Only discuss and execute a trade on steam. If someone wants to DM you on discord to talk a trade. Politely ask them to add you on steam and discuss it there. If they decline. Likely a scammer.
Good starting out guides:
[url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=140281143]Beginner's Guide to TF2 Trading[/url]
[url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1353725346]All in 1 Guide - Trading Basics + Scrap to Unusual + All Kinds of Scams.[/url]: Just a good starter's guide.
[url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1520267176]Current Scams And How To Avoid Them[/url]: old but still relevant
Advanced guides relevant to understanding items and rarity.
[url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2907802402]TF2 Statistics Guide[/url]: Unboxing and item stats pertaining to chances to get stuff that people are interested in.
[url=https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=838954277]Rare Items in Team Fortress 2[/url]
spam ur steam friends "Hello Sir, Sorry For Wasting You're Time, But I Notice You Have An Overabundance Of Useless Crates Cluttering You're Inventory, May I Have Those Useless Crates For My Collection, Old Friend?"
spam ur steam friends "Hello Sir, Sorry For Wasting You're Time, But I Notice You Have An Overabundance Of Useless Crates Cluttering You're Inventory, May I Have Those Useless Crates For My Collection, Old Friend?"
Thank you Joe, but I don't mind the effects. I'm talking about old hats with the new effects. Thank you though
Thank you Joe, but I don't mind the effects. I'm talking about old hats with the new effects. Thank you though
Gotcha. Short answer is not really; unless valve updates the crates but that is rare.R
Cosmetic cases can have old effects on the new hats but only of the hats in the case. New effects typically are exclusive to the case.
Easiest way to explore is look at what is listed on the cases on SCM.
https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?category_440_Collection%5B%5D=any&category_440_Type%5B%5D=tag_Supply+Crate&appid=440&q=cosmetic#p1_name_asc
Gotcha. Short answer is not really; unless valve updates the crates but that is rare.R
Cosmetic cases can have old effects on the new hats but only of the hats in the case. New effects typically are exclusive to the case.
Easiest way to explore is look at what is listed on the cases on SCM.
https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?category_440_Collection%5B%5D=any&category_440_Type%5B%5D=tag_Supply+Crate&appid=440&q=cosmetic#p1_name_asc