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RGL S13 Div-1 Happenings/Discussion
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#31
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dbkbrodybro wrote an entire post (which you quoted) explaining specifically why stuff matters, these are not new issues and they often meaningfully affect higher ranked teams in a division, why post if you have literally nothing to add

yeah i read it, and i wrote my own post explaining why i disagree with some of it. i know his has more paragraphs and its yelling at rgl but that doesnt instantly make it completely correct

theres not really much in there that explains why its a critical issue that teams will VERY rarely rematch against eachother. he says its a 17 team division so it should be a clean round robin (agreed), but it's now a 14 team div so thats just not true/possible. i agree that some bubble teams having byes and some not is dumb, but i dont think the solution is giving more byes, since byes also skew result fairness

in any case i dont remember any example of a team getting into or getting denied playoffs because they played the same team twice. if there is. happy to be proved wrong here but everyone's just taking the claim that this has had real repercussions on some season's results at face value

if u wanna just -frag me and ignore or reply with a meme thats fine, its an open forum, but idk how actually replying to his post adds less than anything else in here has

[quote=dbk][quote=brody][/quote]
bro wrote an entire post (which you quoted) explaining specifically why stuff matters, these are not new issues and they often meaningfully affect higher ranked teams in a division, why post if you have literally nothing to add[/quote]
yeah i read it, and i wrote my own post explaining why i disagree with some of it. i know his has more paragraphs and its yelling at rgl but that doesnt instantly make it completely correct

theres not really much in there that explains why its a critical issue that teams will VERY rarely rematch against eachother. he says its a 17 team division so it should be a clean round robin (agreed), but it's now a 14 team div so thats just not true/possible. i agree that some bubble teams having byes and some not is dumb, but i dont think the solution is giving more byes, since byes also skew result fairness

in any case i dont remember any example of a team getting into or getting denied playoffs because they played the same team twice. if there is. happy to be proved wrong here but everyone's just taking the claim that this has had real repercussions on some season's results at face value

if u wanna just -frag me and ignore or reply with a meme thats fine, its an open forum, but idk how actually replying to his post adds less than anything else in here has
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#32
2 Frags +

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#33
7 Frags +

i think the fairest thing to do with a 17 team div would have been to schedule each team against each every other team and then if a team dies mid season revert all theri matches to FFL's. pretty sure this basic formula (play each team once, revert all of a dead team's matches to FFL's) could create seasons with much more even strength of schedule than currently exist.

also if u havent noticed the 3rd/4th advanced seeds being decided by rematches for a while i feel like u havent played advanced much

i think the fairest thing to do with a 17 team div would have been to schedule each team against each every other team and then if a team dies mid season revert all theri matches to FFL's. pretty sure this basic formula (play each team once, revert all of a dead team's matches to FFL's) could create seasons with much more even strength of schedule than currently exist.

also if u havent noticed the 3rd/4th advanced seeds being decided by rematches for a while i feel like u havent played advanced much
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#34
13 Frags +

admins flip a coin to determine whether to award 4 rounds or 1 for a ffw

admins flip a coin to determine whether to award 4 rounds or 1 for a ffw
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#35
6 Frags +

RGL I appreciate a lot of the back end gritty work you guys do for us when it comes to running a league, but idk why this is still a thing.

The top 4 teams (Topes Mafia, Denis Died at Daycare, Our team SuperZAZABomb, and Retirement Realm) are having their seedings determined completely by some whack scheduling. Apparently playoffs is going to go ahead with top 6, and according to this screenshot from the RGL Team Leader Channels, the top 2 teams are getting bye weeks starting off. If that's the case, then why are some of the locked in top 4 playoff teams playing against each other and others not? We played Denis's team (2nd seed vs 3rd seed), we won but lost our other match, so we stayed at 3rd. Why aren't we just running all the top 4 teams playing against each other so that we can try and get better seeding amongst each other? Our team should stay at 3rd because we lost our chance to overtake 2nd by losing our match against the firesidecasts team, so why does our team have the chance to overtake 2nd thru beating a non playoffs team and 4th seed, while 2nd seed has to fight 1st seed to maintain their 2nd seed???? Why are the playoff teams that have their bye week advantage fighting against each other instead of playing the other playoff teams to potentially cause upsets, like 1st seed vs 3rd and 2nd seed vs 4th???

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130212125806174268/1173635025959395338/20231113_094621.jpg?ex=6564abcb&is=655236cb&hm=6b3776ea6e7a5d3d5664923cf7fe1fc6c4963bbd04a827ac37f05d8a394d2d2e&;

Also something I don't understand is why these teams aren't just versing each other. MEELO is getting screwed because they have to play against the #2 seed team while the other playoff bubble teams have much easier matches compared to them. Francis Followers literally has a Bye week and then they play the worst team in the div and then they can be 9 - 7 going into playoffs?????? Why not have the 8-6 teams playoff teams play against the 7-7 teams since that gives the chance for upsets to happen between playoff bubble teams that will change who will make playoffs or not? I think having the pool of 6 teams playing against each other would make things so much more interesting rather than the random amalgamation of matches that happened for the last two weeks of the season.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130212125806174268/1173638231129071718/image.png?ex=6564aec7&is=655239c7&hm=56c216870f0bbebf71cbe4b8854503e0ba7f5956b0b2879e70ef2ab5f5c9fc25&;

RGL I appreciate a lot of the back end gritty work you guys do for us when it comes to running a league, but idk why this is still a thing.

The top 4 teams (Topes Mafia, Denis Died at Daycare, Our team SuperZAZABomb, and Retirement Realm) are having their seedings determined completely by some whack scheduling. Apparently playoffs is going to go ahead with top 6, and according to this screenshot from the RGL Team Leader Channels, the top 2 teams are getting bye weeks starting off. If that's the case, then why are some of the locked in top 4 playoff teams playing against each other and others not? We played Denis's team (2nd seed vs 3rd seed), we won but lost our other match, so we stayed at 3rd. Why aren't we just running all the top 4 teams playing against each other so that we can try and get better seeding amongst each other? Our team should stay at 3rd because we lost our chance to overtake 2nd by losing our match against the firesidecasts team, so why does our team have the chance to overtake 2nd thru beating a non playoffs team and 4th seed, while 2nd seed has to fight 1st seed to maintain their 2nd seed???? Why are the playoff teams that have their bye week advantage fighting against each other instead of playing the other playoff teams to potentially cause upsets, like 1st seed vs 3rd and 2nd seed vs 4th???

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130212125806174268/1173635025959395338/20231113_094621.jpg?ex=6564abcb&is=655236cb&hm=6b3776ea6e7a5d3d5664923cf7fe1fc6c4963bbd04a827ac37f05d8a394d2d2e&[/img]

Also something I don't understand is why these teams aren't just versing each other. MEELO is getting screwed because they have to play against the #2 seed team while the other playoff bubble teams have much easier matches compared to them. Francis Followers literally has a Bye week and then they play the worst team in the div and then they can be 9 - 7 going into playoffs?????? Why not have the 8-6 teams playoff teams play against the 7-7 teams since that gives the chance for upsets to happen between playoff bubble teams that will change who will make playoffs or not? I think having the pool of 6 teams playing against each other would make things so much more interesting rather than the random amalgamation of matches that happened for the last two weeks of the season.

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130212125806174268/1173638231129071718/image.png?ex=6564aec7&is=655239c7&hm=56c216870f0bbebf71cbe4b8854503e0ba7f5956b0b2879e70ef2ab5f5c9fc25&[/img]
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#36
13 Frags +

huh weird the exact thing people were complaining about being an issue every season is an issue again.

huh weird the exact thing people were complaining about being an issue every season is an issue again.
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#37
13 Frags +

just get rid of the auto scheduler garbage it never works (or at least stop waiting till monday to run it, ppl have complained about this for so long and it still happens)

just get rid of the auto scheduler garbage it never works (or at least stop waiting till monday to run it, ppl have complained about this for so long and it still happens)
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#38
15 Frags +

imo if yr gonna leave your team with no communication the day before a match bc u desperately want to make playoffs, u should probably make sure to actually make playoffs. lol

imo if yr gonna leave your team with no communication the day before a match bc u desperately want to make playoffs, u should probably make sure to actually make playoffs. lol
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#39
Fireside Casts
0 Frags +

reminder to get your demos + ticks in for the frag video! purely dependent on submissions :)

reminder to get your demos + ticks in for the frag video! purely dependent on submissions :)
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