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Wanted to make a general thread for people to post about esoteric topics that don't particularly matter that they have a lot of knowledge on/interest in. It could be anything from specific details about experimental speedrun tech for a game you've never played to an interest in linguistics to keeping and caring for centipedes. Just like reading peoples thoughts on the things that make them tick.

Wanted to make a general thread for people to post about esoteric topics that don't particularly matter that they have a lot of knowledge on/interest in. It could be anything from specific details about experimental speedrun tech for a game you've never played to an interest in linguistics to keeping and caring for centipedes. Just like reading peoples thoughts on the things that make them tick.
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pretty sure Korean, maybe Japanese? hard dance/electro music got around and grew in popularity due to military bases (maybe religious/crisis missions as well but thats more schizo sounding than anything) transplanting whatever they picked up in Italy/Germany/USA/europe.

What began as/made EDM has been available and around since the early 80s but the higher bpm/more extremes of most electronic genres and subgenres mostly developed simultaneously around the globe, normally attributed to the mid-late 90s, but as we've been seeing in the US atm for a genre or otherwise inspired taste to break into the mainstream or even the big "niche" (edc/beyond wonderland/does coachella count?/etc.) events, it starts with a very dense and concentrated origin and then organically(? idk a better description) grows into the monster that, for example, house music has become.

I've asked around about it over the past few years and there has been a couple crossovers with harder or higher BPM dance music popping up in Seoul 85-90ish and definitely closer to what is recognized today after 95. I really want to include japan in there due to it being a thing near Sasebo (naval base), especially during/after desert storm in 91, but I personally haven't met anyone outside of family that was interested at that time. When I was there in okinawa 2012ish an uncle got down pretty well to some big house I was showing to a cousin at the time. Personally i consider him an outlier because it turned out he purposely went for niche/not-normal stuff growing up around late 80s and 90s, with my grandma suggesting they were still kinda covering up the extent of it. i really wanted this bit to be focused on the randos ive asked or ran into, but honestly never got much more of a "first heard X location Y date". Big push to start thinking about it more was @ Basscon wastelands where a bunch of older asians were just vibing in the VIP area and said they heard it wherever they were from during the 90s.

Main reason why I even started looking/thinking about is due to some bits of my family being VERY into old school hip hop in the late 70s and house in the early 80s thru to present-ish and occasionally telling some story about how they heard it in X location you wouldn't expect at Y time that doesn't adhere to what is commonly said on forums and wikipedia. Old skool and something in between disco-and-house apparently produced something a bit ahead of its time out near Carlsbad, CA before the 90s came around and it just became known as house. Being stationed out in germany lead to discovering hard-er electronic music and after desert storm, seeing it (still?) having a presence in Kuwait '94/95. Something similar was told about Seoul, some time before they were immigrating to the US in early 90s it was a weird thing kids/outliers were into, having returned few years later and it's now settled into a solid local scene. Japan was a bit of a fever dream for me as i was still a kid and don't really have any way of talking to family still there, but imagine the shock of seeing someone balls deep into the make-up era of KISS for probably too long turning into the normal-ish suburban nearing retirement age white guy. (Entirely guessing at that analogy, but my grandma was SHOCKED at how that uncle turned out.)

this turned from a small 1 paragraph into a schizo essay, sorry. if u know what im talking about for your part of the globe pls chime in (especially for AUS, cause i know theyve been turning out the precursors for it since very early 90s but not enough to say much else).

pretty sure Korean, maybe Japanese? hard dance/electro music got around and grew in popularity due to military bases (maybe religious/crisis missions as well but thats more schizo sounding than anything) transplanting whatever they picked up in Italy/Germany/USA/europe.

What began as/made EDM has been available and around since the early 80s but the higher bpm/more extremes of most electronic genres and subgenres mostly developed simultaneously around the globe, normally attributed to the mid-late 90s, but as we've been seeing in the US atm for a genre or otherwise inspired taste to break into the mainstream or even the big "niche" (edc/beyond wonderland/does coachella count?/etc.) events, it starts with a very dense and concentrated origin and then organically(? idk a better description) grows into the monster that, for example, house music has become.

I've asked around about it over the past few years and there has been a couple crossovers with harder or higher BPM dance music popping up in Seoul 85-90ish and definitely closer to what is recognized today after 95. I really want to include japan in there due to it being a thing near Sasebo (naval base), especially during/after desert storm in 91, but I personally haven't met anyone outside of family that was interested at that time. When I was there in okinawa 2012ish an uncle got down pretty well to some big house I was showing to a cousin at the time. Personally i consider him an outlier because it turned out he purposely went for niche/not-normal stuff growing up around late 80s and 90s, with my grandma suggesting they were still kinda covering up the extent of it. i really wanted this bit to be focused on the randos ive asked or ran into, but honestly never got much more of a "first heard X location Y date". Big push to start thinking about it more was @ Basscon wastelands where a bunch of older asians were just vibing in the VIP area and said they heard it wherever they were from during the 90s.

Main reason why I even started looking/thinking about is due to some bits of my family being VERY into old school hip hop in the late 70s and house in the early 80s thru to present-ish and occasionally telling some story about how they heard it in X location you wouldn't expect at Y time that doesn't adhere to what is commonly said on forums and wikipedia. Old skool and something in between disco-and-house apparently produced something a bit ahead of its time out near Carlsbad, CA before the 90s came around and it just became known as house. Being stationed out in germany lead to discovering hard-er electronic music and after desert storm, seeing it (still?) having a presence in Kuwait '94/95. Something similar was told about Seoul, some time before they were immigrating to the US in early 90s it was a weird thing kids/outliers were into, having returned few years later and it's now settled into a solid local scene. Japan was a bit of a fever dream for me as i was still a kid and don't really have any way of talking to family still there, but imagine the shock of seeing someone balls deep into the make-up era of KISS for probably too long turning into the normal-ish suburban nearing retirement age white guy. (Entirely guessing at that analogy, but my grandma was SHOCKED at how that uncle turned out.)

this turned from a small 1 paragraph into a schizo essay, sorry. if u know what im talking about for your part of the globe pls chime in (especially for AUS, cause i know theyve been turning out the precursors for it since very early 90s but not enough to say much else).
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fuck flash. i just spent the past (fuck who knows) hours finding out the main "genre" i listen to is copium for east-germans who felt uncomfortable around other europeans, and grew into its own microgenre on Soundcloud, separate from its origins (Gab, tek/tekno.)

Tekk/Tek = Gabber (90s-'00~)
East Germany met West in '89 and found themselves with similarly different scenes. It appears that East Germany were rooted deep in themselves and did not easily take to many western tastes , tendencies or influence. this is where tekk stops and tek starts as the decades pass and the internet connects the world. Surrounding countries and in the north took to the new Tek and subsequently Gabber well before the Internet could show Tekk would be left by itself.

Tekk = Tek = Gabber ('93-'05~)
Very similar styles growing in different regions that were melded together as the bosnian regional conflicts kicked off causing traveling parties to head westward. In the UK, free parties/public raves were cracked down on and went overseas by the police as Section 63 of the '94 Police Act was passed. The largest actor of this was called Spiral tribe during the early 90s which resulted in the following act and the move into both Canada and France.

Tekk =/= #Tekk (2014+) =/= anything else.
There is a SINGLE reddit post in German commenting a tribute to TWO major German forums going down in 2009. SoundCloud and YT are ""flooded"" with what people have managed to salvage from these sites, a few are sparse in info and even names. Some DJ's who were producing since before the wall fell, fall silent with the forums. Most of the songs reuploaded are simply mixes/albums named "Tekk", many more of these with no credits at all and a decade of cataloging is largely lost to time or translation. Soundcloud's #tags feature were introduced around 2011-2012 but are not reliable or trusted by the community until 2014~ where Charts can be generated by #tags are available for users and artists.

The newly functional Charts lead to a rediscovery of old tracks via YT and Soundcloud, reuploads of old physical copies, and old blood (literally) seeing this resurgence as hardcore derived festivals started breaking into the mainstream, out of the forests and into the major cities. Soundcloud's current #tekk underwent an evolution as new audience was exposed to new media. They found new vocals, kicks, and tempo to draw from, inspired by the hardstyle/dub/house explosion in 2014+, and without risk of being crushed under the releases of big/new labels as they began disengaging from the niche genres due to how restrictive they proved to be creativity wise (too many styles across too long of a timespan that were too closely localized and too constrained in tonality and tempo).

its been like 8 hours since i came up with the initial jist of it in discord, the beer is wearing off and im a lot less confident in the story-like tone i had during some parts lmfao. prolly a useless bump but maybe some oldheads know what im talking about and want to chat about it or someone knows wtf was going on in german forums a bit more accurately than 1 google translated reddit post. There also was a pause/slowdown in music of this type in 2011-2012 but i have no clue what its related to and only noticed it after i saw a couple of the bigger labels/people were putting out a fraction of what they were the 3-4 years before hand looking through RYM disco's. lowkey though it is kinda funny to see a bunch of videos about traveling convoys in the 90s with huge fucking systems blowing out mics and distorting most of the audio, to then notice current day songs are trying to mimic how fucking terribly the bass was recorded in those videos via just distorting the ever loving shit out of it and not really having any bass response.

fuck flash. i just spent the past (fuck who knows) hours finding out the main "genre" i listen to is copium for east-germans who felt uncomfortable around other europeans, and grew into its own microgenre on Soundcloud, separate from its origins (Gab, tek/tekno.)

Tekk/Tek = Gabber (90s-'00~)
East Germany met West in '89 and found themselves with similarly different scenes. It appears that East Germany were rooted deep in themselves and did not easily take to many western tastes , tendencies or influence. this is where tekk stops and tek starts as the decades pass and the internet connects the world. Surrounding countries and in the north took to the new Tek and subsequently Gabber well before the Internet could show Tekk would be left by itself.

Tekk = Tek = Gabber ('93-'05~)
Very similar styles growing in different regions that were melded together as the bosnian regional conflicts kicked off causing traveling parties to head westward. In the UK, free parties/public raves were cracked down on and went overseas by the police as Section 63 of the '94 Police Act was passed. The largest actor of this was called Spiral tribe during the early 90s which resulted in the following act and the move into both Canada and France.

Tekk =/= #Tekk (2014+) =/= anything else.
There is a SINGLE reddit post in German commenting a tribute to TWO major German forums going down in 2009. SoundCloud and YT are ""flooded"" with what people have managed to salvage from these sites, a few are sparse in info and even names. Some DJ's who were producing since before the wall fell, fall silent with the forums. Most of the songs reuploaded are simply mixes/albums named "Tekk", many more of these with no credits at all and a decade of cataloging is largely lost to time or translation. Soundcloud's #tags feature were introduced around 2011-2012 but are not reliable or trusted by the community until 2014~ where Charts can be generated by #tags are available for users and artists.

The newly functional Charts lead to a rediscovery of old tracks via YT and Soundcloud, reuploads of old physical copies, and old blood (literally) seeing this resurgence as hardcore derived festivals started breaking into the mainstream, out of the forests and into the major cities. Soundcloud's current #tekk underwent an evolution as new audience was exposed to new media. They found new vocals, kicks, and tempo to draw from, inspired by the hardstyle/dub/house explosion in 2014+, and without risk of being crushed under the releases of big/new labels as they began disengaging from the niche genres due to how restrictive they proved to be creativity wise (too many styles across too long of a timespan that were too closely localized and too constrained in tonality and tempo).


its been like 8 hours since i came up with the initial jist of it in discord, the beer is wearing off and im a lot less confident in the story-like tone i had during some parts lmfao. prolly a useless bump but maybe some oldheads know what im talking about and want to chat about it or someone knows wtf was going on in german forums a bit more accurately than 1 google translated reddit post. There also was a pause/slowdown in music of this type in 2011-2012 but i have no clue what its related to and only noticed it after i saw a couple of the bigger labels/people were putting out a fraction of what they were the 3-4 years before hand looking through RYM disco's. lowkey though it is kinda funny to see a bunch of videos about traveling convoys in the 90s with huge fucking systems blowing out mics and distorting most of the audio, to then notice current day songs are trying to mimic how fucking terribly the bass was recorded in those videos via just distorting the ever loving shit out of it and not really having any bass response.
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BuildBruhfuck flash. i just spent the past (fuck who knows) hours finding out the main "genre" i listen to is copium for east-germans who felt uncomfortable around other europeans, and grew into its own microgenre on Soundcloud, separate from its origins (Gab, tek/tekno.)

Tekk/Tek = Gabber (90s-'00~)
East Germany met West in '89 and found themselves with similarly different scenes. It appears that East Germany were rooted deep in themselves and did not easily take to many western tastes , tendencies or influence. this is where tekk stops and tek starts as the decades pass and the internet connects the world. Surrounding countries and in the north took to the new Tek and subsequently Gabber well before the Internet could show Tekk would be left by itself.

Tekk = Tek = Gabber ('93-'05~)
Very similar styles growing in different regions that were melded together as the bosnian regional conflicts kicked off causing traveling parties to head westward. In the UK, free parties/public raves were cracked down on and went overseas by the police as Section 63 of the '94 Police Act was passed. The largest actor of this was called Spiral tribe during the early 90s which resulted in the following act and the move into both Canada and France.

Tekk =/= #Tekk (2014+) =/= anything else.
There is a SINGLE reddit post in German commenting a tribute to TWO major German forums going down in 2009. SoundCloud and YT are ""flooded"" with what people have managed to salvage from these sites, a few are sparse in info and even names. Some DJ's who were producing since before the wall fell, fall silent with the forums. Most of the songs reuploaded are simply mixes/albums named "Tekk", many more of these with no credits at all and a decade of cataloging is largely lost to time or translation. Soundcloud's #tags feature were introduced around 2011-2012 but are not reliable or trusted by the community until 2014~ where Charts can be generated by #tags are available for users and artists.

The newly functional Charts lead to a rediscovery of old tracks via YT and Soundcloud, reuploads of old physical copies, and old blood (literally) seeing this resurgence as hardcore derived festivals started breaking into the mainstream, out of the forests and into the major cities. Soundcloud's current #tekk underwent an evolution as new audience was exposed to new media. They found new vocals, kicks, and tempo to draw from, inspired by the hardstyle/dub/house explosion in 2014+, and without risk of being crushed under the releases of big/new labels as they began disengaging from the niche genres due to how restrictive they proved to be creativity wise (too many styles across too long of a timespan that were too closely localized and too constrained in tonality and tempo).

its been like 8 hours since i came up with the initial jist of it in discord, the beer is wearing off and im a lot less confident in the story-like tone i had during some parts lmfao. prolly a useless bump but maybe some oldheads know what im talking about and want to chat about it or someone knows wtf was going on in german forums a bit more accurately than 1 google translated reddit post. There also was a pause/slowdown in music of this type in 2011-2012 but i have no clue what its related to and only noticed it after i saw a couple of the bigger labels/people were putting out a fraction of what they were the 3-4 years before hand looking through RYM disco's. lowkey though it is kinda funny to see a bunch of videos about traveling convoys in the 90s with huge fucking systems blowing out mics and distorting most of the audio, to then notice current day songs are trying to mimic how fucking terribly the bass was recorded in those videos via just distorting the ever loving shit out of it and not really having any bass response.

any chance you can post some of your favourite songs from the periods listed, or just favourites in general

[quote=BuildBruh]fuck flash. i just spent the past (fuck who knows) hours finding out the main "genre" i listen to is copium for east-germans who felt uncomfortable around other europeans, and grew into its own microgenre on Soundcloud, separate from its origins (Gab, tek/tekno.)

Tekk/Tek = Gabber (90s-'00~)
East Germany met West in '89 and found themselves with similarly different scenes. It appears that East Germany were rooted deep in themselves and did not easily take to many western tastes , tendencies or influence. this is where tekk stops and tek starts as the decades pass and the internet connects the world. Surrounding countries and in the north took to the new Tek and subsequently Gabber well before the Internet could show Tekk would be left by itself.

Tekk = Tek = Gabber ('93-'05~)
Very similar styles growing in different regions that were melded together as the bosnian regional conflicts kicked off causing traveling parties to head westward. In the UK, free parties/public raves were cracked down on and went overseas by the police as Section 63 of the '94 Police Act was passed. The largest actor of this was called Spiral tribe during the early 90s which resulted in the following act and the move into both Canada and France.

Tekk =/= #Tekk (2014+) =/= anything else.
There is a SINGLE reddit post in German commenting a tribute to TWO major German forums going down in 2009. SoundCloud and YT are ""flooded"" with what people have managed to salvage from these sites, a few are sparse in info and even names. Some DJ's who were producing since before the wall fell, fall silent with the forums. Most of the songs reuploaded are simply mixes/albums named "Tekk", many more of these with no credits at all and a decade of cataloging is largely lost to time or translation. Soundcloud's #tags feature were introduced around 2011-2012 but are not reliable or trusted by the community until 2014~ where Charts can be generated by #tags are available for users and artists.

The newly functional Charts lead to a rediscovery of old tracks via YT and Soundcloud, reuploads of old physical copies, and old blood (literally) seeing this resurgence as hardcore derived festivals started breaking into the mainstream, out of the forests and into the major cities. Soundcloud's current #tekk underwent an evolution as new audience was exposed to new media. They found new vocals, kicks, and tempo to draw from, inspired by the hardstyle/dub/house explosion in 2014+, and without risk of being crushed under the releases of big/new labels as they began disengaging from the niche genres due to how restrictive they proved to be creativity wise (too many styles across too long of a timespan that were too closely localized and too constrained in tonality and tempo).


its been like 8 hours since i came up with the initial jist of it in discord, the beer is wearing off and im a lot less confident in the story-like tone i had during some parts lmfao. prolly a useless bump but maybe some oldheads know what im talking about and want to chat about it or someone knows wtf was going on in german forums a bit more accurately than 1 google translated reddit post. There also was a pause/slowdown in music of this type in 2011-2012 but i have no clue what its related to and only noticed it after i saw a couple of the bigger labels/people were putting out a fraction of what they were the 3-4 years before hand looking through RYM disco's. lowkey though it is kinda funny to see a bunch of videos about traveling convoys in the 90s with huge fucking systems blowing out mics and distorting most of the audio, to then notice current day songs are trying to mimic how fucking terribly the bass was recorded in those videos via just distorting the ever loving shit out of it and not really having any bass response.[/quote]

any chance you can post some of your favourite songs from the periods listed, or just favourites in general
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https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/377470/runescape-music-videos

https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/377470/runescape-music-videos
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BuildBruh

Go outside, lay off the Mike's Hard.

[quote=BuildBruh][/quote]
Go outside, lay off the Mike's Hard.
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Grapejuice sucks, there’s no denying it. He goes 9-41 every game and FEEDS NON STOP! I’m so done with that mother fucker. Not only does he feed non stop, he doesn’t go outside or shower. I was talking to him yesterday and THAT STUPID MOTHER FUCKER told me that he fucked my mom again. LIKE BRO IM SORRY STOP HAVING SEX WITH MY MOM. Not only that but he also thinks I’m bad at soldier. Like wtf man. He doesn’t practice, he doesn’t go outside, he only drinks maple syrup and fucks ice skates. YOU KNOW WHAT, I’m done. Yes I’m done. THERES NO WORDS TO SAY, FUCK GRAPEJUICE.

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Grapejuice sucks, there’s no denying it. He goes 9-41 every game and FEEDS NON STOP! I’m so done with that mother fucker. Not only does he feed non stop, he doesn’t go outside or shower. I was talking to him yesterday and THAT STUPID MOTHER FUCKER told me that he fucked my mom again. LIKE BRO IM SORRY STOP HAVING SEX WITH MY MOM. Not only that but he also thinks I’m bad at soldier. Like wtf man. He doesn’t practice, he doesn’t go outside, he only drinks maple syrup and fucks ice skates. YOU KNOW WHAT, I’m done. Yes I’m done. THERES NO WORDS TO SAY, FUCK GRAPEJUICE.

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BKG (basic korean girl)

[url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/37113/psa-stay-away-from-these-girls]BKG (basic korean girl)[/url]
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^I do not stand by my old posts. They are sexist racist and sexually frustrated. I am now an Anna akana abiding woman respecter anti fetishizer.

^I do not stand by my old posts. They are sexist racist and sexually frustrated. I am now an Anna akana abiding woman respecter anti fetishizer.
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capnnofapnhttps://www.teamfortress.tv/post/377470/runescape-music-videos

i wish to be so knowledgeable

Zeklynany chance you can post some of your favourite songs from the periods listed, or just favourites in general

yeah ill throw a few up in a few hours. off the top of my head, my favorite "real" dj's would be moshtekk and reteid for tekk. gabber would just be paul elstak's older stuff under rottendam? records in the mid 90s. "Thunderdome gabber" on YT will bring up the actual old stuff. Tekk is stupid niche IMO to basically its always in contention of being another genre. just searching "Tekk" on soundcloud is what I used to do and basically represents what it is and has been.

meant to post this edit forever ago but tftv threw an error at me and i didnt notice myb lmao

[quote=capnnofapn]https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/377470/runescape-music-videos[/quote]
i wish to be so knowledgeable
[quote=Zeklyn]any chance you can post some of your favourite songs from the periods listed, or just favourites in general[/quote]
yeah ill throw a few up in a few hours. off the top of my head, my favorite "real" dj's would be moshtekk and reteid for tekk. gabber would just be paul elstak's older stuff under rottendam? records in the mid 90s. "Thunderdome gabber" on YT will bring up the actual old stuff. Tekk is stupid niche IMO to basically its always in contention of being another genre. just searching "Tekk" on soundcloud is what I used to do and basically represents what it is and has been.

meant to post this edit forever ago but tftv threw an error at me and i didnt notice myb lmao
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