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Please it's too good and completely changes what demo can do. Idk I remember rgl post season surveys asking what weapons should be banned but I guess they just stopped doing this
Please it's too good and completely changes what demo can do. Idk I remember rgl post season surveys asking what weapons should be banned but I guess they just stopped doing this
on the real tho, it makes playing against (and i assume as) demo much more boring when there is no counterplay or punish meaning the lnl user can safely spam 100 dmg footballs from almost anywhere in a fight
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range
on the real tho, it makes playing against (and i assume as) demo much more boring when there is no counterplay or punish meaning the lnl user can safely spam 100 dmg footballs from almost anywhere in a fight
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range
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idk about 6s but the loch and load completely ruins highlander
idk about 6s but the loch and load completely ruins highlander
chunkywigglesPlease it's too good and completely changes what demo can do. Idk I remember rgl post season surveys asking what weapons should be banned but I guess they just stopped doing this
Yes bro I have to avoid cross map pipes.
[quote=chunkywiggles]Please it's too good and completely changes what demo can do. Idk I remember rgl post season surveys asking what weapons should be banned but I guess they just stopped doing this[/quote]
Yes bro I have to avoid cross map pipes.
Yes bro I have to avoid cross map pipes.
3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself
3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself
saxophoneon the real tho, it makes playing against (and i assume as) demo much more boring when there is no counterplay or punish meaning the lnl user can safely spam 100 dmg footballs from almost anywhere in a fight
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range
wasd
[quote=saxophone]on the real tho, it makes playing against (and i assume as) demo much more boring when there is no counterplay or punish meaning the lnl user can safely spam 100 dmg footballs from almost anywhere in a fight
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range[/quote]
wasd
this is especially an issue on larger maps where the demo becomes encouraged to just throw out 100 dmg proj from sniper range[/quote]
wasd
I've never seen a discussion on the loch n load that was helpful ever
I've never seen a discussion on the loch n load that was helpful ever
please add sourcemod that adds damage falloff for pipes (loch n load and stock.) It can be a 100 for mid range distances but it doing 100 from across mid is unfun and too impactful.
please add sourcemod that adds damage falloff for pipes (loch n load and stock.) It can be a 100 for mid range distances but it doing 100 from across mid is unfun and too impactful.
w3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
[quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
scratchhw3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itselfit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
[quote=scratchh][quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
yak404scratchhw3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itselfit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
[quote=yak404][quote=scratchh][quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
mayo28yak404scratchhw3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itselfit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.
[quote=mayo28][quote=yak404][quote=scratchh][quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.
mayo28yak404scratchhw3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itselfit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
its now been 9 years theres no reason to hold ur gamemode hostage anymore
let urself have more fun playing the game
ban mg ban loch and load in na
cheers, byte
[quote=mayo28][quote=yak404][quote=scratchh][quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
its now been 9 years theres no reason to hold ur gamemode hostage anymore
let urself have more fun playing the game
ban mg ban loch and load in na
cheers, byte
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
its now been 9 years theres no reason to hold ur gamemode hostage anymore
let urself have more fun playing the game
ban mg ban loch and load in na
cheers, byte
Phnxmayo28After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.yak404scratchhw3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itselfit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.
I know zero people quitting because of the Loch n Load.
[quote=Phnx][quote=mayo28][quote=yak404][quote=scratchh][quote=w]3 years ago it was market gardener now its lochnload. history repeats itself[/quote]
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.[/quote]
I know zero people quitting because of the Loch n Load.
it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
Good luck preaching weapon bans to NA players when the well has truly been poisoned by B4nny for years claiming "Valve doesn't want weapon bans". Who gives a fuck what valve thinks, they don't give a fuck about comp gamemodes in this game.[/quote]
this is a lot easier to say in hindsight. 9 years ago it made a lot more sense to cater to valve's sensibillities when it wasn't so evident they would abandon the game let alone the comp scene.[/quote]
After meet your match people should've understood that the only thing the game has is the community.
there is no reason to not to balance the game around what would make people stay and enjoy the game more starting now at least.[/quote]
I know zero people quitting because of the Loch n Load.
scratchhit should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.
a bit of a derailment of the thread but why do people see an issue with the mg? 195 dmg is a lot and oneshots ppl in 6s most of the time but you'd need to hit a melee midair for it, otherwise you do 0/65 dmg and are right in front of the enemy's face with a melee weapon out. Most of the time I feel like its just better to hit them with a more consistent 90-100 dmg rocket and be able to follow up with a splash rocket assuming they don't surf the first shot, not to mention the utility you're missing out with the escape plan. I am open so maybe I just haven't seen it being used very well, but is it really oppressive enough to warrant a ban?
[quote=scratchh]it should STILL be the market gardener. that shit sucks to play against. No primary 6s class should have a free instant kill left click weapon especially a class with as much mobility as soldier.[/quote]
a bit of a derailment of the thread but why do people see an issue with the mg? 195 dmg is a lot and oneshots ppl in 6s most of the time but you'd need to hit a melee midair for it, otherwise you do 0/65 dmg and are right in front of the enemy's face with a melee weapon out. Most of the time I feel like its just better to hit them with a more consistent 90-100 dmg rocket and be able to follow up with a splash rocket assuming they don't surf the first shot, not to mention the utility you're missing out with the escape plan. I am open so maybe I just haven't seen it being used very well, but is it really oppressive enough to warrant a ban?
a bit of a derailment of the thread but why do people see an issue with the mg? 195 dmg is a lot and oneshots ppl in 6s most of the time but you'd need to hit a melee midair for it, otherwise you do 0/65 dmg and are right in front of the enemy's face with a melee weapon out. Most of the time I feel like its just better to hit them with a more consistent 90-100 dmg rocket and be able to follow up with a splash rocket assuming they don't surf the first shot, not to mention the utility you're missing out with the escape plan. I am open so maybe I just haven't seen it being used very well, but is it really oppressive enough to warrant a ban?
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scout players pitting soldiers and demos against each other
scout players pitting soldiers and demos against each other
Duel_Clipa bit of a derailment of the thread but why do people see an issue with the mg? 195 dmg is a lot and oneshots ppl in 6s most of the time but you'd need to hit a melee midair for it, otherwise you do 0/65 dmg and are right in front of the enemy's face with a melee weapon out.
I'm not very good at Soldier but it's not super hard to hit gardens, and much better jumpers than me can very easily hit gardens. You can also just switch to rockets if you miss or think you're going to miss and get some damage or frag whoever your target is, usually a Medic. It's not like Sniper or Spy where you have to give up a Scout or Soldier to instakill someone, you're just attaching an instakill option onto someone with one of the best weapons in the game and incredible movement. If you fuck up, you still have the Rocket Launcher.
Hopefully your Scouts are still shooting the flying guy out of the air, but sometimes they just can't or are... basically AFK
[quote=Duel_Clip]a bit of a derailment of the thread but why do people see an issue with the mg? 195 dmg is a lot and oneshots ppl in 6s most of the time but you'd need to hit a melee midair for it, otherwise you do 0/65 dmg and are right in front of the enemy's face with a melee weapon out.[/quote]
I'm not very good at Soldier but it's not [i]super[/i] hard to hit gardens, and much better jumpers than me can very easily hit gardens. You can also just switch to rockets if you miss or think you're going to miss and get some damage or frag whoever your target is, usually a Medic. It's not like Sniper or Spy where you have to give up a Scout or Soldier to instakill someone, you're just attaching an instakill option onto someone with one of the best weapons in the game and incredible movement. If you fuck up, you still have the Rocket Launcher.
Hopefully your Scouts are still shooting the flying guy out of the air, but sometimes they just can't or are... basically AFK
I'm not very good at Soldier but it's not [i]super[/i] hard to hit gardens, and much better jumpers than me can very easily hit gardens. You can also just switch to rockets if you miss or think you're going to miss and get some damage or frag whoever your target is, usually a Medic. It's not like Sniper or Spy where you have to give up a Scout or Soldier to instakill someone, you're just attaching an instakill option onto someone with one of the best weapons in the game and incredible movement. If you fuck up, you still have the Rocket Launcher.
Hopefully your Scouts are still shooting the flying guy out of the air, but sometimes they just can't or are... basically AFK
https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv whats the counterplay to this?
[url=https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv] https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv[/url] whats the counterplay to this?
i havent cared to play invite in years but definitely am not jealous of medics these days who have to deal with both loch n load and market gardener lol (and 60+ minute halfs with no pause for halftime / golden cap, so much endurance just to slip up once and take -195 or catch a hitscan pipe then it's gg)
i havent cared to play invite in years but definitely am not jealous of medics these days who have to deal with both loch n load and market gardener lol (and 60+ minute halfs with no pause for halftime / golden cap, so much endurance just to slip up once and take -195 or catch a hitscan pipe then it's gg)
we can't even get rgl to ban cheaters and you want weapons banned? good luck
we can't even get rgl to ban cheaters and you want weapons banned? good luck
at least the market gardener is fun to use, the loch n load is literally less fun to play with than regular pipes, people only enjoy it because they can hit crazy pipes without having to get their fatass up from the la-z-boy and aim
at least the market gardener is fun to use, the loch n load is literally less fun to play with than regular pipes, people only enjoy it because they can hit crazy pipes without having to get their fatass up from the la-z-boy and aim
Wicked02 https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv whats the counterplay to this?
Type Well Played. Move on.
[quote=Wicked02][url=https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv] https://clips.twitch.tv/LovelySincereCrabFunRun-C79jKqxRnfTUjFIv[/url] whats the counterplay to this?[/quote]
Type Well Played. Move on.
Type Well Played. Move on.
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