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Lowpander swaps out Kissakala and Grenjabob, Crayon joins
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Koncept
April 21, 2017

Following the conclusion of ETF2L Season 26, Lowpander has chosen to swap two of its members out. Medic Kissakala was swapped out for former 3/6 medic Crayon, while Grenjabob has stepped down from scout for a new trial member.

Grenjabob provided a statement regarding the change:

I wanted to play roamer and not scout back when I originally joined and I ended up just playing scout for them as I really enjoyed their company. Now I kind of just want to do my own thing and I wish them luck in doing theirs.

Lowpander was able to make the Premiership playoffs this past season, but their run was stopped short after loses to Arctic Foxes and nerdRage in the double elimination bracket. As far as a 6th player to round out the roster, there are reports of players who have tried out, but there are no confirmed members as of writing this article.

Lowpander's roster is now:

  • Scout: Mr. Epic
  • Roamer: Muuki
  • Pocket: uubers
  • Demoman: Hildreth
  • Medic: Crayon
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KonceptRoamer: Muuki

did u just assume his main class?

[quote=Koncept]Roamer: Muuki[/quote]

did u just assume his main class?
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I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.

I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.
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TetzioI thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.

contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)

[quote=Tetzio]I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.[/quote]
contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)
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HiipFireTetzioI thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)

Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams

[quote=HiipFire][quote=Tetzio]I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.[/quote]
contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)[/quote]

Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams
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Raptor00XHiipFireTetzioI thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)
Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams

he said prem teams not high teams in prem..

[quote=Raptor00X][quote=HiipFire][quote=Tetzio]I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.[/quote]
contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)[/quote]

Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams[/quote]
he said prem teams not high teams in prem..
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Raptor00XHiipFireTetzioI thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)
Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams

3/6 is relegated i dont count them as a prem team

[quote=Raptor00X][quote=HiipFire][quote=Tetzio]I thought Lowpander was dead? I'm happy their not but this is surprising.[/quote]
contrary to popular belief, there are currently 0 dead prem teams(not including champgg)[/quote]

Pretty sure 3/6 is dead, crayon joined this team, deox has a rec post, domo has a rec post and degu is trialing for other teams[/quote]
3/6 is relegated i dont count them as a prem team
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also they finished bottom so they are high now anyway

also they finished bottom so they are high now anyway
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http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?

http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?
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Dr_Spamomanhttp://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?

Might just be bait as they seem to be still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .

[quote=Dr_Spamoman]http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?[/quote]
Might just be bait as they seem to be still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .
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FantamanDr_Spamomanhttp://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?Might just be bait as they are still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .

LEGO return to prem as well??? PogChamp

[quote=Fantaman][quote=Dr_Spamoman]http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?[/quote]
Might just be bait as they are still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .[/quote]
LEGO return to prem as well??? PogChamp
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Dr_Spamomanhttp://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?

apparently the smzi team's tag is washed^
that has to be one of the most clever ones i've ever seen lol

[quote=Dr_Spamoman]http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?[/quote]
apparently the smzi team's tag is washed^
that has to be one of the most clever ones i've ever seen lol
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sadly for any fanboys its not even that likely that both of these teams will make it to prem since there's limited slots and they are both struggling vs high project teams

sadly for any fanboys its not even that likely that both of these teams will make it to prem since there's limited slots and they are both struggling vs high project teams
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#11
I guess you weren't around when mix^ was still a thing.

#11
I guess you weren't around when mix^ was still a thing.
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rocketslayFantamanDr_Spamomanhttp://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?Might just be bait as they are still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .LEGO return to prem as well??? PogChamp

Possibly :)

[quote=rocketslay][quote=Fantaman][quote=Dr_Spamoman]http://etf2l.org/teams/21814/ still says kaidus and buttnose is on the roster, however they are currently in http://etf2l.org/teams/28709/. anyone care to spill some beans?[/quote]
Might just be bait as they are still practicing together: http://logs.tf/1704064#76561197963314359 .[/quote]
LEGO return to prem as well??? PogChamp[/quote]

Possibly :)
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Just make prem bigger eh lads!

Just make prem bigger eh lads!
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Where they can find new Scout now?

Where they can find new Scout now?
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Bottom half of prem should be in prem playoffs aswell imo

Bottom half of prem should be in prem playoffs aswell imo
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smziBottom half of prem should be in prem playoffs aswell imo

I don't think ETF2L should change their rules just to suit your personal interest without supplying any actual reasoning as to why this should happen

[quote=smzi]Bottom half of prem should be in prem playoffs aswell imo[/quote]
I don't think ETF2L should change their rules just to suit your personal interest without supplying any actual reasoning as to why this should happen
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I think that LEGO, Ams team and prolly my team aswell are above the standards of low prem already.
From watching your stream i know that you muuki and your team are always quick coming to conclusions about other teams, players etc but maybe you should focus more on the development of your own team as your results against all those bad/washed up players are more than questionable.

I think that LEGO, Ams team and prolly my team aswell are above the standards of low prem already.
From watching your stream i know that you muuki and your team are always quick coming to conclusions about other teams, players etc but maybe you should focus more on the development of your own team as your results against all those bad/washed up players are more than questionable.
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smziI think that LEGO, Ams team and prolly my team aswell are above the standards of low prem already.
From watching your stream i know that you muuki and your team are always quick coming to conclusions about other teams, players etc but maybe you should focus more on the development of your own team as your results against all those bad/washed up players are more than questionable.

maybe you should take your own advice? you tell me not to judge other teams yet you are already saying these 3 teams are better than the bottom half of prem when all of them are struggling against those very teams

[quote=smzi]I think that LEGO, Ams team and prolly my team aswell are above the standards of low prem already.
From watching your stream i know that you muuki and your team are always quick coming to conclusions about other teams, players etc but maybe you should focus more on the development of your own team as your results against all those bad/washed up players are more than questionable.[/quote]
maybe you should take your own advice? you tell me not to judge other teams yet you are already saying these 3 teams are better than the bottom half of prem when all of them are struggling against those very teams
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Would be pretty bullshit for the teams guaranteed a prem spot to have it suddenly taken away just because we for once have a lot of exciting teams potentially coming in. From a spectators point of view it would be cool, but it wouldn't be fair.

Would be pretty bullshit for the teams guaranteed a prem spot to have it suddenly taken away just because we for once have a lot of exciting teams potentially coming in. From a spectators point of view it would be cool, but it wouldn't be fair.
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Also, since there's going to be 3 spots available, I'm sure a legendary player like you wont have trouble vs high project teams in the preseason playoffs if you truly think you are better than bottom prem teams

Also, since there's going to be 3 spots available, I'm sure a legendary player like you wont have trouble vs high project teams in the preseason playoffs if you truly think you are better than bottom prem teams
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How can you possibly be so hostile? Of course the teams Sam mentioned are likely to be better than the bottom of last seasons prem. Objectively speaking it's one of, if not the worst overall level of the division that has ever been.

If there is actually three spots available then everything should be very straightforward, but you even said there was only one spot to your knowledge a few posts back, and if that's the case then there are some decisions to be made for the admins, and these decisions should be made sooner rather than later so everyone can prepare/plan accordingly.

How can you possibly be so hostile? Of course the teams Sam mentioned are likely to be better than the bottom of last seasons prem. Objectively speaking it's one of, if not the worst overall level of the division that has ever been.

If there is actually three spots available then everything should be very straightforward, but you even said there was only one spot to your knowledge a few posts back, and if that's the case then there are some decisions to be made for the admins, and these decisions should be made sooner rather than later so everyone can prepare/plan accordingly.
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As far as i know there is only 1 spot up for grabs.
Applying your logic muuki i am judging based on results.
I agree that it would be aids for the teams in prem but nonetheless i am arguing for a division that provides a higher level of competitivity.

If you want to turn this into omg washed up player is scared to play playoffs go ahead i dont expect anything else.

As far as i know there is only 1 spot up for grabs.
Applying your logic muuki i am judging based on results.
I agree that it would be aids for the teams in prem but nonetheless i am arguing for a division that provides a higher level of competitivity.

If you want to turn this into omg washed up player is scared to play playoffs go ahead i dont expect anything else.
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kaidusHow can you possibly be so hostile? Of course the teams Sam mentioned are likely to be better than the bottom of last seasons prem. Objectively speaking it's one of, if not the worst overall level of the division that has ever been.

If there is actually three spots available then everything should be very straightforward, but you even said there was only one spot to your knowledge a few posts back, and if that's the case then there are some decisions to be made for the admins, and these decisions should be made sooner rather than later so everyone can prepare/plan accordingly.

There are no decisions to be made even if there was only one spot left, which I also didn't ever write here? Please stop making up things about the skill level and my posts

[quote=kaidus]How can you possibly be so hostile? Of course the teams Sam mentioned are likely to be better than the bottom of last seasons prem. Objectively speaking it's one of, if not the worst overall level of the division that has ever been.

If there is actually three spots available then everything should be very straightforward, but you even said there was only one spot to your knowledge a few posts back, and if that's the case then there are some decisions to be made for the admins, and these decisions should be made sooner rather than later so everyone can prepare/plan accordingly.[/quote]

There are no decisions to be made even if there was only one spot left, which I also didn't ever write here? Please stop making up things about the skill level and my posts
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Nice edit then, I read the post when it said one spot rather than "limited spots". Maybe I just misread, but if there are actually three spots there is no reason to think we won't see all the best teams qualify. If not then there is definitely decisions to be made for the admins. Even if in your mind it's obvious what to do, they still have to choose between going for the higher skill level and is allowing existing teams to keep their spots. It's an invite division so by no means does it necessarily have to be the latter.

Nice edit then, I read the post when it said one spot rather than "limited spots". Maybe I just misread, but if there are actually three spots there is no reason to think we won't see all the best teams qualify. If not then there is definitely decisions to be made for the admins. Even if in your mind it's obvious what to do, they still have to choose between going for the higher skill level and is allowing existing teams to keep their spots. It's an invite division so by no means does it necessarily have to be the latter.
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They've changed their mind a couple of times but I believe the noot clan is dead (correct me if I'm wrong) which I think would put up 3 spots for prem given that Champ.gg is dead and 3/6 were relegated (and is dead anyway).

Edit: I counted wrong. It should be 2 given that noot replaced the relegated 3/6. Unless Nunya would have to requalify in which case it's still 3.

They've changed their mind a couple of times but I believe the noot clan is dead (correct me if I'm wrong) which I think would put up 3 spots for prem given that Champ.gg is dead and 3/6 were relegated (and is dead anyway).

Edit: I counted wrong. It should be 2 given that noot replaced the relegated 3/6. Unless Nunya would have to requalify in which case it's still 3.
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MaahanmuuttajaWhere they can find new Scout now?

http://etf2l.org/recruitment/

[quote=Maahanmuuttaja]Where they can find new Scout now?[/quote]
http://etf2l.org/recruitment/
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kaidusNice edit.

yea, real SLICK muuki but kaidus has you sussed

[quote=kaidus]Nice edit.[/quote]
yea, real SLICK muuki but kaidus has you sussed
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kaidusNice edit then, I read the post when it said one spot rather than "limited spots". I think there are less than three spots, so there is definitely decisions to be made for the admin's. Even if in your mind it's obvious what to do, they still have to choose between going for the higher skill level and is allowing existing teams to keep their spots. It's an invite division so by no means does it necessarily have to be the latter.

nah, you definitely did not read it when it said one spot since it never said that.

and you/lego really havent proven to be better than "low prem" teams thus far

[quote=kaidus]Nice edit then, I read the post when it said one spot rather than "limited spots". I think there are less than three spots, so there is definitely decisions to be made for the admin's. Even if in your mind it's obvious what to do, they still have to choose between going for the higher skill level and is allowing existing teams to keep their spots. It's an invite division so by no means does it necessarily have to be the latter.[/quote]
nah, you definitely did not read it when it said one spot since it never said that.

and you/lego really havent proven to be better than "low prem" teams thus far
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