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TF2 update for 8/16/16 (8/17/16 UTC)
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#61
8 Frags +

i don't get it, they have 2 (or more?) competitive matchmaking systems up in the form of csgo and dota 2, they make a new one with so much wrong with it and then have the spend the next 6 months fixing it. why couldn't they make smarter decisions (which have been made twice before at valve) on the first release. i think this is the only mm system that's gonna have a comprehensive rank system update AFTER release

other than that, they're obviously committed to keeping players informed for the timebeing and are at least intending to implement good fixes

i don't get it, they have 2 (or more?) competitive matchmaking systems up in the form of csgo and dota 2, they make a new one with so much wrong with it and then have the spend the next 6 months fixing it. why couldn't they make smarter decisions (which have been made twice before at valve) on the first release. i think this is the only mm system that's gonna have a comprehensive rank system update AFTER release

other than that, they're obviously committed to keeping players informed for the timebeing and are at least intending to implement good fixes
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#62
2 Frags +

They're not even mentioning abandoners completely cancelling games...

They're not even mentioning abandoners completely cancelling games...
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#63
5 Frags +

Still no placement matches? ....

At this point I wont be surprised if they give scout the reserve shooter just to fuck with every other 6s class even more.

Some progress at least I guess.

Still no placement matches? ....

At this point I wont be surprised if they give scout the reserve shooter just to fuck with every other 6s class even more.

Some progress at least I guess.
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#64
-2 Frags +
Moved two tall spotlights back into a clipping brush at mid to avoid very small collision issue (thanks Bilbert)
[quote]Moved two tall spotlights back into a clipping brush at mid to avoid very small collision issue (thanks Bilbert)[/quote]
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#65
10 Frags +
taggNice research flat, dm me your paypal info
Thanks for looking that stuff up for us

can confirm tagg is a baller by the way

np

[quote=tagg]Nice research flat, dm me your paypal info
Thanks for looking that stuff up for us[/quote]
can confirm tagg is a baller by the way

np
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#66
5 Frags +

"Why haven't they done _______ "

valveWe're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future
"Why haven't they done _______ "

[quote=valve]We're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future[/quote]
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#67
0 Frags +
tagg"Why haven't they done _______ "
valveWe're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future

Doesn't say anything about abandoners.

[quote=tagg]"Why haven't they done _______ "

[quote=valve]We're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future[/quote][/quote]

Doesn't say anything about abandoners.
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#68
13 Frags +
tagg"Why haven't they done _______ "
valveWe're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"

[quote=tagg]"Why haven't they done _______ "

[quote=valve]We're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future[/quote][/quote]

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"
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#69
-7 Frags +
joddtagg"Why haven't they done _______ "
valveWe're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"

Do you mean the beta that was testing if the matchmaking client and servers worked with a 9 year old game that was never supposed to support these features?

I'd understand if you were upset because they were ignoring the issues but they've literally addressed them multiple times and are working on fixes. Go outside or something, stop being mad for no reason and let the people work

And for that other child

valvewe are investigating several options to offset the impact abandoners have on games that are in-progress. More on that when we have details to share.
[quote=jodd][quote=tagg]"Why haven't they done _______ "

[quote=valve]We're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future[/quote][/quote]

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"[/quote]

Do you mean the beta that was testing if the matchmaking client and servers worked with a 9 year old game that was never supposed to support these features?

I'd understand if you were upset because they were ignoring the issues but they've literally addressed them multiple times and are working on fixes. Go outside or something, stop being mad for no reason and let the people work

And for that other child

[quote=valve]we are investigating several options to offset the impact abandoners have on games that are in-progress. More on that when we have details to share.[/quote]
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#70
10 Frags +

I just played Swiftwater for 20 minutes if you include pregame and somebody literally abandoned on 5 seconds remaining.

I just played Swiftwater for 20 minutes if you include pregame and somebody literally abandoned on 5 seconds remaining.
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#71
10 Frags +

I get that complaining about everything valve does has gotten old and is not very productive and I get that they said that they're working on certain issues but the fact is that valve often works on issues/balance/fixes and their solutions are more often than not half assed/broken/make the initial problem even worse. So you shouldn't be surprised at the community's negative backlash

I get that complaining about everything valve does has gotten old and is not very productive and I get that they said that they're working on certain issues but the fact is that valve often works on issues/balance/fixes and their solutions are more often than not half assed/broken/make the initial problem even worse. So you shouldn't be surprised at the community's negative backlash
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#72
-3 Frags +

these discussions are like a broken record.
this game runs on excuses, bugs, hats and wishful thinking
3rd party solutions seem to offer faster and better what valve doesn´t, i guess we can always support those that listen to the community

these discussions are like a broken record.
this game runs on excuses, bugs, hats and wishful thinking
3rd party solutions seem to offer faster and better what valve doesn´t, i guess we can always support those that listen to the community
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#73
8 Frags +
taggjoddtagg"Why haven't they done _______ "
valveWe're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"

Do you mean the beta that was testing if the matchmaking client and servers worked with a 9 year old game that was never supposed to support these features?

I'd understand if you were upset because they were ignoring the issues but they've literally addressed them multiple times and are working on fixes. Go outside or something, stop being mad for no reason and let the people work

And for that other child
valvewe are investigating several options to offset the impact abandoners have on games that are in-progress. More on that when we have details to share.

Are you seriously calling people that disagree with you, and think that they should have released a proper matchmaking system after 5 months of beta and 2 competitive games, children?

And we didn't have that "More on that when we have details to share" yet.

[quote=tagg][quote=jodd][quote=tagg]"Why haven't they done _______ "

[quote=valve]We're currently working on a more comprehensive Elo rating system to improve how Competitive Mode ranks are determined that we'll be shipping in the near future[/quote][/quote]

"Why didn't they do ________ in the 5 month long beta"[/quote]

Do you mean the beta that was testing if the matchmaking client and servers worked with a 9 year old game that was never supposed to support these features?

I'd understand if you were upset because they were ignoring the issues but they've literally addressed them multiple times and are working on fixes. Go outside or something, stop being mad for no reason and let the people work

And for that other child

[quote=valve]we are investigating several options to offset the impact abandoners have on games that are in-progress. More on that when we have details to share.[/quote][/quote]

Are you seriously calling people that disagree with you, and think that they should have released a proper matchmaking system after 5 months of beta and 2 competitive games, children?

And we didn't have that "More on that when we have details to share" yet.
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#74
5 Frags +

Tagg definitely has a point in that certain features Valve wants to implement probably need to be tested to see if they even work considering how drastic the changes are to a very old and largely untouched (technically) game.

But I mean if you have two highly successful games with extremely functional matchmaking systems why would your matchmaking not be set up the same from the start? Stuff like placement matches, functioning regions for ping, reporting.

They literally have two different and near perfect templates to work from. It actually makes zero sense and can't be excused after months of development. It's so inherently retarded it's like they just pretend that CS GO and DOTA don't exist and just wanna reinvent the wheel but instead use every shape that isn't vaguely wheel like first.

Tagg definitely has a point in that certain features Valve wants to implement probably need to be tested to see if they even work considering how drastic the changes are to a very old and largely untouched (technically) game.

But I mean if you have two highly successful games with extremely functional matchmaking systems why would your matchmaking not be set up the same from the start? Stuff like placement matches, functioning regions for ping, reporting.

They literally have two different and near perfect templates to work from. It actually makes zero sense and can't be excused after months of development. It's so inherently retarded it's like they just pretend that CS GO and DOTA don't exist and just wanna reinvent the wheel but instead use every shape that isn't vaguely wheel like first.
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