do you go to cofc

video gamessss

no i live in columbia

this is off topic tho

this is why we cant have threads like this now u know

shits fucked bro, what the fuck is wrong with people

Mental illness is my strongest bet. No one with their right minds would do that.

any douche that shoots up a place is probably insane

Does racism count as a mental illness

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/18/8806633/charleston-shooter-flags-dylann-roof

i initially thought that by "holy city" you meant the vatican, and i was much more confused

still this is beyond shitty

White guy shoots up a black church in state which probably celebrates racist imagery outside of their capitol building. Not the most surprising thing in the world.

holy city is the name of the region inside of the city

if ur referring to the confederate flag on the south carolina state building, that was taken down in 2000

uh yes actually

http://time.com/3928411/south-carolina-confederate-flag-charleston-church/

can you define mental illness?

Oh Jesus Christ can we close this before we get more people defending a fucking racist murderer because he couldn't help what he did because he has a disease? He intentionally killed black people and he said he did it to cause a race war. If you're defending him, you're part of the problem.

one person did that and yaug can be ignored lol

i've been to the capitol building and im pretty sure it isnt there

Literally 15 seconds on Google seems to think you're wrong.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AFAB_enUS493US493&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=south+carolina+state+house&tbm=nws

no clue then idk

South Carolina is pretty divided upon the continued flying of the Confederate Bars because the political nature of the states is something unique compared to most of the world.

Many South Carolina residents see the flag as part of its history and something to remain due to its nature as historical and political legacy. Many other residents see it as something reminiscent of slavery and not appropriate or something to be remembered regardless of its historic value.

Either way arguing over the flag is really dumb in this thread as its most definitely there though but hotly debated.

Can we just all agree that what he did was fucked? No need to psycho-analyze it or blame it on politics.

How can it not be blamed on politics? The guy confessed to wanting to start a "race war" by his actions. The sooner people realize that you have to actually be quite sane to commit such heinous acts the sooner we can actually look at the real problems that create them. What I mean by quite sane is that he very deliberately planned out an attack on a very specific group of people for a very definite reason for a certain outcome. It wasn't random and it wasn't a heat of the moment kind of thing. People actually afflicted with mental illness are incapable of being cogent enough to plan and execute such an attack.

The interesting thing about all this is that prior to this shooting everyone expected an attack from ISIS when there are just as many other 'terrorist' organizations/people already living in the United States.

uhh Sociopaths and Psychopaths can plan and execute such attacks, not all mental illness completely incapacitates people. He, like every other mass murderer in history, is probably completely fucked mentally. However, this gives him no excuse as he was a racist who shot up a place. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, and it should be harsh.

Yes, unique because they tried to secede in order to keep black people enslaved.

Its legacy as seceding in order to keep black people enslaved? Yeah let's keep that legacy going.

It has no historic value unless taken as a mark of shame, it is analogous to the swastika in every conceivable way.

There is nothing dumb about pointing out that the South still maintains a level of pride in their history of racism, fascism, and terrorism that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of American citizens, which has helped create a culture that allows Dylann Roofs to exist.

everyone here is a god damn liberal

I don't get what the point of that post was?

I was just stating the reasons why it might still be there, l certainly don't want it there nor do I disagree with you in terms of how stupid it is.

In addition you misinterpreted my first point in that the states are politically unique because of Federalism in the US, not secession, but ok good post I don't see why you needed to act so aggressive over an explanation for people who might not be aware of why its still there.

was expecting yaug to derail this thread

Nobody was defending the murderer for compulsiveness as part of a mental illness. Khaki said racism is a mental illness, but nowhere did he or anybody defend the murderer for racism. Whether the murderer were a psychopath or sociopath, etc., or not, does not make him exempt from being an awful person with terrible goals. There is no defending such an awful action, goal, or stigma.

Few mental illnesses render people incapable of planning such an attack.

Fucking- out, out, OUT.

My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.

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