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#1
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I'm sure everyone's tired of these, but I'd really appreciate if someone could look this over so I don't end up screwing anything up.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.79 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.98 @ NCIX)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($244.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($722.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($99.32 @ DirectCanada)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A FLX 120mm Fan ($19.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $2220.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-13 10:02 EDT-0400)

I'm sure everyone's tired of these, but I'd really appreciate if someone could look this over so I don't end up screwing anything up.

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[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k]Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($349.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14]Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-gryphonz87]Asus GRYPHON Z87 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($169.79 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997002]Mushkin Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($67.98 @ NCIX)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd256bw]Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk[/url] ($244.50 @ Vuugo)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx780dc2oc3gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card[/url] ($722.98 @ Newegg Canada)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc9011029ww]Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($99.32 @ DirectCanada)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfs12aflx]Noctua NF-S12A FLX 120mm Fan[/url] ($19.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfa14flx]Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfa14flx]Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfa14flx]Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-case-fan-nfa14flx]Noctua NF-A14 FLX 68.0 CFM 140mm Fan[/url] ($22.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bbefx]XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply[/url] ($99.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($249.00 @ Canada Computers)
[b]Total:[/b] $2220.29
[i](Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)[/i]
[i](Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-13 10:02 EDT-0400)[/i]
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#2
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Fan is pretty big, the only thing that might cause an issue is fitting it on a micro ATX with the RAM and GPU. That RAM hangs pretty low though so it will probably not be an issue. Everything else looks good to me though, except the GTX 780 ASUS is out of stock on Newegg.

Fan is pretty big, the only thing that might cause an issue is fitting it on a micro ATX with the RAM and GPU. That RAM hangs pretty low though so it will probably not be an issue. Everything else looks good to me though, except the GTX 780 ASUS is out of stock on Newegg.
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#3
1 Frags +

You can get faster RAM for the same price. Everything else is good. Not sure why you are buying that many fans, the ones that come with the 350D are already pretty good fans. I would just get a 140 to add to the front.

Have fun

You can get faster RAM for the same price. Everything else is good. Not sure why you are buying that many fans, the ones that come with the 350D are already pretty good fans. I would just get a 140 to add to the front.

Have fun
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#4
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I would say you dont need such a massive fan for the cpu. If you're going for a high-end one, get water cooling imo.

I would say you dont need such a massive fan for the cpu. If you're going for a high-end one, get water cooling imo.
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#5
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Awesome... Although I would buy 16gb ram. If you have such a beast setup some more ram wouldn't hurt, and believe me it helps alot when rendering video, modeling, and heavy programs like those... I couldn't possibly use after effects with 8gb ram.

Also, no storage driver? I would get a 1-2tb WD caviar green

Awesome... Although I would buy 16gb ram. If you have such a beast setup some more ram wouldn't hurt, and believe me it helps alot when rendering video, modeling, and heavy programs like those... I couldn't possibly use after effects with 8gb ram.

Also, no storage driver? I would get a 1-2tb WD caviar green
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#6
1 Frags +

micro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?

micro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?
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#7
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RigelFan is pretty big, the only thing that might cause an issue is fitting it on a micro ATX with the RAM and GPU. That RAM hangs pretty low though so it will probably not be an issue. Everything else looks good to me though, except the GTX 780 ASUS is out of stock on Newegg.

I checked Noctua's website, the cooler is compatible with my mobo and ram. All the non-reference 780s always go out of stock :/

[quote=Rigel]Fan is pretty big, the only thing that might cause an issue is fitting it on a micro ATX with the RAM and GPU. That RAM hangs pretty low though so it will probably not be an issue. Everything else looks good to me though, except the GTX 780 ASUS is out of stock on Newegg.[/quote]
I checked Noctua's website, the cooler is compatible with my mobo and ram. All the non-reference 780s always go out of stock :/
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#8
-1 Frags +

Maybe downgrade to a 770 and then invest in a nicer ATX case, more RAM, etc.

Maybe downgrade to a 770 and then invest in a nicer ATX case, more RAM, etc.
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#9
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Setsulmicro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?

I chose an i7 because it's worth the 100 dollars to me to have hyperthreading in case i need it in the future. Mainly gaming. I chose MicroATX so the case has a slightly smaller profile on my desk, and i dont lose anything aside from some pci slots that i wouldnt use anyways.

[quote=Setsul]micro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?[/quote]
I chose an i7 because it's worth the 100 dollars to me to have hyperthreading in case i need it in the future. Mainly gaming. I chose MicroATX so the case has a slightly smaller profile on my desk, and i dont lose anything aside from some pci slots that i wouldnt use anyways.
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#10
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KanecoAwesome... Although I would buy 16gb ram. If you have such a beast setup some more ram wouldn't hurt, and believe me it helps alot when rendering video, modeling, and heavy programs like those... I couldn't possibly use after effects with 8gb ram.

Also, no storage driver? I would get a 1-2tb WD caviar green

I'll definitely think about more ram, but I don't really do any editing or anything so i think it would be a waste for me. I have a network drive at home for all my movies and stuff, and a 500gb external i use for backups of big files.

[quote=Kaneco]Awesome... Although I would buy 16gb ram. If you have such a beast setup some more ram wouldn't hurt, and believe me it helps alot when rendering video, modeling, and heavy programs like those... I couldn't possibly use after effects with 8gb ram.

Also, no storage driver? I would get a 1-2tb WD caviar green[/quote]

I'll definitely think about more ram, but I don't really do any editing or anything so i think it would be a waste for me. I have a network drive at home for all my movies and stuff, and a 500gb external i use for backups of big files.
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#11
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If you don't want to buy 16GB RAM now just use one 8GB stick and upgrade later. The difference between single and dual channel is unnoticable in games.

Hyperthreading doesn't magically make cores faster. For games it doesn't do anything at all. Go for a 4670K, if you suddenly need Hyperthreading you can still buy a 5770K or whatever it'll be called, intel won't change the socket for the next generation (broadwell).
If you want a technical explanation why it is that way just asked but be warned, it is going to be very long and complicated.

Some random benchmarks i found and as you can see there is pretty much no difference between Hyperthreading and no HT.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_haswell_core_i5_4670k_core_i7_4770k_review,13.html
https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks

Without at least 2 GPUs you won't ever get bottlenecked by the 4670K anyway.

tl;dr
Hyperthreading won't do anything in games, go for a 4670K.

If you don't want to buy 16GB RAM now just use one 8GB stick and upgrade later. The difference between single and dual channel is unnoticable in games.

Hyperthreading doesn't magically make cores faster. For games it doesn't do anything at all. Go for a 4670K, if you suddenly need Hyperthreading you can still buy a 5770K or whatever it'll be called, intel won't change the socket for the next generation (broadwell).
If you want a technical explanation why it is that way just asked but be warned, it is going to be very long and complicated.

Some random benchmarks i found and as you can see there is pretty much no difference between Hyperthreading and no HT.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/intel_haswell_core_i5_4670k_core_i7_4770k_review,13.html
https://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks

Without at least 2 GPUs you won't ever get bottlenecked by the 4670K anyway.

[b]tl;dr[/b]
Hyperthreading won't do anything in games, go for a 4670K.
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#12
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My brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.

My brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.
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#13
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PlatypusSetsulmicro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?
I chose an i7 because it's worth the 100 dollars to me to have hyperthreading in case i need it in the future. Mainly gaming. I chose MicroATX so the case has a slightly smaller profile on my desk, and i dont lose anything aside from some pci slots that i wouldnt use anyways.

Just some of us don't understand how you're going to do cable management which will be really important for a air cooled system if you do Overclocking. That and I am uncertain if CPU cooler will properly fit, or your video card for that matter.

-edit-
After finding pictures of that case, I am without a doubt a bit shocked at how well that is built for a Micro-ATX. Your build is basically perfect, except you're probably going way overkill with the GPU and i7.

[quote=Platypus][quote=Setsul]micro ATX is a weird choice for such a powerful build.
With an i7-4770K this looks like an editing build but then there's no HDD and only 8GB RAM.

Answering these two questions would help a lot:
What are you going to use it for?
Why micro ATX?[/quote]
I chose an i7 because it's worth the 100 dollars to me to have hyperthreading in case i need it in the future. Mainly gaming. I chose MicroATX so the case has a slightly smaller profile on my desk, and i dont lose anything aside from some pci slots that i wouldnt use anyways.[/quote]

Just some of us don't understand how you're going to do cable management which will be really important for a air cooled system if you do Overclocking. That and I am uncertain if CPU cooler will properly fit, or your video card for that matter.

-edit-
After finding pictures of that case, I am without a doubt a bit shocked at how well that is built for a Micro-ATX. Your build is basically perfect, except you're probably going way overkill with the GPU and i7.
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#14
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The 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.

The 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.
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#15
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frknThe 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.

If anyone is wondering about their motherboard and ram's compatibility with noctua coolers, noctua's site has an awesome list

[quote=frkn]The 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.[/quote]

If anyone is wondering about their motherboard and ram's compatibility with noctua coolers, noctua's site has an awesome list
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#16
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KissmeMy brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.

Here's my plan for the case fans http://i.imgur.com/HHvu9L9.png
(left is back of case, right is front of case)

I do plan on OCing :)

[quote=Kissme]My brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.[/quote]

Here's my plan for the case fans http://i.imgur.com/HHvu9L9.png
(left is back of case, right is front of case)

I do plan on OCing :)
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#17
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PlatypusfrknThe 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.
If anyone is wondering about their motherboard and ram's compatibility with noctua coolers, noctua's site has an awesome list

The motherboard and ram aren't the issue, it's whether or not the cooler physically fits inside the case.

I think it's fine though with this case.

[quote=Platypus][quote=frkn]The 350D fits full length video cards and has excellent cable management. There is room for large air coolers depending on motherboard layout and ram heatspreaders.[/quote]

If anyone is wondering about their motherboard and ram's compatibility with noctua coolers, noctua's site has an awesome list[/quote]

The motherboard and ram aren't the issue, it's whether or not the cooler physically fits inside the case.

I think it's fine though with this case.
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#18
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PlatypusKissmeMy brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.

Here's my plan for the case fans http://i.imgur.com/HHvu9L9.png
(left is back of case, right is front of case)

I do plan on OCing :)

That'd be good =)

How much of an OC? I'm sure you'll watch the temp gauges to see when your CPU cooler reaches it's limit anyway.

[quote=Platypus][quote=Kissme]My brother literally just made the exact same build as this (with the exception of more RAM because the guy logs into the servers from online sometimes), for one of his co-workers. It is pretty dam fast. Also, because of the smaller case, there is a LOT of airflow inside of the case and not any noticeable dead pockets of air. As long as you setup the fans correctly (which ones are blowing in/out), the airflow will be amazing.

Do you plan on OC'ing?

Probably the nicest build I've seen on these forums.[/quote]

Here's my plan for the case fans http://i.imgur.com/HHvu9L9.png
(left is back of case, right is front of case)

I do plan on OCing :)[/quote]

That'd be good =)

How much of an OC? I'm sure you'll watch the temp gauges to see when your CPU cooler reaches it's limit anyway.
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#19
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KissmeHow much of an OC? I'm sure you'll watch the temp gauges to see when your CPU cooler reaches it's limit anyway.

Whatever my silicon can handle within safe voltages

[quote=Kissme]How much of an OC? I'm sure you'll watch the temp gauges to see when your CPU cooler reaches it's limit anyway.[/quote]
Whatever my silicon can handle within safe voltages
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