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#264 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic
DavidTheWinThat just goes to show how susceptible people are to brainwashing. People used religion (the thing about Noah's black son seeing him naked whilst asleep) among other non-religious reasons (being under the idea that black people were physically inferior) to justify slavery and racism towards black people.

I have never read anywhere in the Bible about Noah having a black son who was seen as inferior. If someone actually used this as an excuse to justify slavery, then it is completely unfounded in the Christian faith. I would chalk that up to an individual trying to find some excuse to justify something that he knew to be wrong, and eventually everyone else just started using that same excuse. Everyone knows that slavery is wrong, however, slavery was a great way to make money back then. For a small cost, you could have free labor for literally generations.

posted about 8 years ago
#262 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic
KanecovalkeriKanecoa world without religion would be a better world.Can you go deeper into this? I am just curious about why you think a world without religion would be better.
Religion used to be a bastion of knowledge and the goodness in the world, christian monks among others where some of the most important people to modern world, they saved thousands of ancient works and scriptures, nowadays all it represents to me is backwards beliefs, repression of knowledge/science, violence and greed.

Could you give me some specific examples of the repression of knowledge and science that the Church, Catholic or otherwise has committed?
As for the violence and greed, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Some individuals use religion to get wealthy. A great example is when the some individuals of the Catholic church came up with a new idea of indulgences, practically forcing people to give them money by playing on their emotions that if they gave money to the church they were "buying" the freedom of loved ones from purgatory. There is a famous quote by the man who invented this that I'm going to paraphrase, "Whenever a coin in the coffer rings, a soul from purgatory springs." Clearly this was corrupt and immoral, but that was just one individual.

We don't need religion to know what is morally right or wrong, we co-existed and thrived far before any religions were "invented". Specially in the age of information and science, when we are sending men to the moon and discovering new planets and galaxies and extra terrestrial life, it just seems to me so mind boggling that such beliefs are still held in such high regard and universally accepted.

If we don't need religion to know what is morally right or wrong, where would you say we get it from?
Religion has been around since the beginning of recorded history, in fact, it's one of the reasons we know what happened in the early world. If it wasn't for monks or scribes or other religious people, we would not know much of what we know today about the past.

sorsaI'm quite certain that you just explained how it makes sense.

I fail to see where I affirmed that society gives the standard for morals, if you don't mind I would love for you to explain your statement more.

At the end of the day, this is a video game forum. I know that what I am saying is most likely contrary to the popular opinion here. In no way do I want to derail this thread for its intended purpose which was to bring attention to the tragedy of what happened in Paris. My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Paris and those who have died and those who have lost their loved ones.

posted about 8 years ago
#257 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic

So I think we can all agree that humans have morals and from those come moral laws. If there are moral laws there must be a moral lawgiver, whether that be society or a religious entity. The question I was asking was where do we get them from?

DavidTheWinSociety as a whole.

I find the thinking that society gives us morals flawed. A few examples are since the beginning of America until the 1900's minorities were oppressed through slavery and denial of natural rights. Back then, no one thought that was wrong, society said, "Yes, these people are inferior and it is morally acceptable to have slaves or oppress these people." Another example would be that in the 1940's in Germany, it was morally acceptable, in German society, to kill six million Jews.

Not trying to single out David, just the easiest post to quote.

posted about 8 years ago
#244 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic
SocialiteI like to think that I have morals even if bible disagrees. But if the only morality we have is the one given by the religion then too bad.

Assuming we do not get our morals from religion, then where do we get them?

posted about 8 years ago
#243 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic
QuertvalkeriKanecoa world without religion would be a better world.Can you go deeper into this? I am just curious about why you think a world without religion would be better.
and i was here thinking this was plain obvious...i guess some people live in denial.

All I did was ask a question about Kaneco's views, instead of arguing ad hominem, would you care to answer the question?

posted about 8 years ago
#239 PARIS TERRORIST ATTACK in Off Topic
Kanecoa world without religion would be a better world.

Can you go deeper into this? I am just curious about why you think a world without religion would be better.

posted about 8 years ago
#243 Overwatch, who got in? in Other Games

Overwatch announced for launch in Spring 2016 on the BlizzCon stream

posted about 8 years ago
#23 TF2 update for 11/3/15 (11/4/15 UTC) in TF2 General Discussion
trapU GUYS GOT MEME'D FELL FOR MY RUSE HAHA XDXD

HAHA NICE 1 XD!!!!!

posted about 8 years ago
#168 Overwatch, who got in? in Other Games
milowhy would blizzard actively read these forums lol... you ppl are delusional

we can dream

Valkeri #1992

posted about 8 years ago
#497 ESEA-O S20 Happenings/Predictions in TF2 General Discussion

Super intense game, score doesn't give enough credit to Weiner Bros, they played really well.
Great game and

gecksSee you in playoffs.
posted about 8 years ago
#462 ESEA-O S20 Happenings/Predictions in TF2 General Discussion
DeerIf all things go according to plan this match will be getting casted tonight on EVLtv.

this should be a super good match, imo the first real test of Pwnage Squad

posted about 8 years ago
#20 radeon lft in Recruitment (looking for team)

Solid medic that would be good for any high open team. I can only see him improving from where he's at now.

posted about 8 years ago
#63 The Fall Classic in News

the sockheads will be there, other open teams should sign up too, its free and helps the community

posted about 8 years ago
#5 NASA finds evidence of flowing water on Mars in Off Topic
omnificI mean it's cool but what impact does it have?

Life on earth wouldn't exist without water. Even though the water on mars was found to be extremely salty, it wouldn't be impossible to extract it to make it drinkable water if we ever tried a mission on mars.

posted about 8 years ago
#2 "Chicken Juice" LFT Platinum or gold. in Recruitment (looking for team)

You should definitely look at www.ugcleague.com if you are interested in playing Highlander.

posted about 8 years ago
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