played today, it was really fun

please don't put in nucleus

Looks sick, imma try it out.

Join small pug groups. Make friends who pug often and you'll get invited a lot.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Pwrpugs
^-- I was invited to join this and get spammed messages all day so I'm sure you could join them any day... and any time of the day...

I don't know how we would fill it, but I do think it would be neat to have a tf.tv pub server where we could all hang out and pub within our own community. It would be nice for us all to unite somewhere on down time, from UGC players, to lobbiers, to open players and even invite players. Since we're all involved in comp, we could have good maps and server settings as well (I prefer no random crits, no random spread, mostly cp + few payload maps, etc.)

Ideal size I think would be 24 players.

Could be helpful for getting pubbers into comp as well and spreading the word :) Especially if a lot of streamers play there.

This is AWESOME. Thank you :)

Well, we know pubbers know OF competitive, and that they enjoy watching it. It's a start, having a big audience is a good thing. :)

Very nice, thank you :)

I think that would encourage some people to post with the mere goal to horde plus/minus frags. Just posting whatever they think people will agree/disagree with, instead of their actual opinion, so I hope that never happens. Many are cautious enough as it is.

Oops! Edited, sorry.

The thread is here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/882961070570075737/

As long as this thread stays active, it will be on the top and front of this page:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/440
(this also goes for videos, so if you see eXtine's vids or any comp related vids, giving them comments and positive ratings will help boost it up)

More importantly though... I realised when I was typing that, that it's really hard to get a new player into competitive. Even if I toss them to the forums, it's pretty intimidating and there aren't a lot of threads explaining what competitive is, or helping new players. I know Sigma's article helps, but I wouldn't want to make them fish for it.

Enigma, is there any way to get a "New to Comp" tab at the top? Something that can hold a pubber's hands and take them step by step through competitive, from lobbies, to newbie-mixes, to helpful videos... just anything to help them understand the game? How I see it, is it's really intimidating and hard to get into competitive without a mentor. If we had a lengthy guide that would suffice instead of a mentor, the scene could expand itself with a lot less work from us.

As for anyone else, 'bumping' threads aren't allowed but if you guys want to post a little something in there to keep it on the front page, that would be awesome.

Thoughts on a newbie section? And maybe what should be included?

Thanks Sigma, this is really useful. It was really hard to find an easy way to introduce new players without tossing them into the forums.

Linked your article here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/882961070570075737/

Easy as that guys. It's a small step, but it's better than nothing. Even if 1/10 people I talk to check it out, that's still 1/10 more than we had before. And if they really like it, they'll tell their friends too.

Mentioned it casually to a classmate who might look into it, and another friend as well.

Amazing. Another reason why teamfortress.tv > natf2

Not much, but threw in 20$. That's asking 19 less people to pay 1$.

I hate how literally EVERY TIME I see that title, I read it as "Dish-honored"