people complain about the natascha but the tomislav or stock is way better and used instead. Base jumper unban would be dumb as fuck gives you a permanent height advantage and makes everyone look at you. Rescue ranger is in no way broken but allows a team to slow the game down easier on last. Forces the other team to have their demo to push a sentry on last. Rangering your gun to different spots and rebuilding it isn't necessarily better than just going back to scout or soldier and stopping the cap. Jarate is frustrating. Loch n load is objectively worse, gunslinger is for idiots, cow mangler is a side grade. Everything else is fine. The only weps I think we should consider as a community rebanning would be the rescue ranger and jarate, I would be fine keeping the same list. Everything else people run they do it to be annoying not to win.
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Vulcanmaxc232i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be betterYou don't need to sac the engie if he can just spam from a weird angle
lol well then at least they arent using the rescue ranger.
i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better
nopewhat the absolute fuck is this
why are moronic pubbers asking for quick fix unbans
why are you talking about trump
b4nny said he wanted to test these weapons:
quick fix
dalokhas
solemn vow
pomson
soda popper
he said it on stream so thats probably why everyone keeps bringing those weps up.
if we dont test things in a competitive environment valve will be clueless to balance them. Maybe we should just reban those weapons, valve slightly nerfs them and we move on.
also for reference fastest build time by healing for kritz, quick fix and medi gun respectively are 32, 37 and 40 seconds
shorasmfw people rather play with quick-fix than base jumper lol
the jumper isn't even good
having a permanent height advantage while making everyone look at you is stupid as fuck and should not be unbanned. I really think the rescue ranger has a good spot, still easy to destroy sentries but makes them much more viable and easy to position. This makes sentries more strategic and viable without effecting the flow of the game.
I think unbanning the pomson, dalohks and solemn vow. I read somewhere the quickfix always builds at max rate is that true? that would seem really broken.
Also something to keep in mind, if we give a big fuck you to valve it doesn't really change anything. We can use whatever whitelist we want. But we risk something like the sticky nerf again (volvo you stay away from my gunboats). Valve balances this game for casual, working with valve is in our best interest for the future of the game.
1. no one knows what valve is gonna fucking do
2. I and many others still think the game fun even with the current whitelist even if people disagree on a few items. The game is not necessarily better or worse than "muh vanilla days". Everyone just wants a right to complain and think tf2 will die.
3. everyone calm down
I think the rescue ranger is a good weapon
really opens up a lot of options when positioning sentries and essentially give them a small health boost. Believe me any competent demo and soldier can take it down. Even when rangering the gun into spawn your taking a big risk when you might need to go scout or soldier when they bait the point. and then rebuild it to level 3. it might be annoying but it increases engies defensive viability without breaking the game. I really believe off classes in there right situation keep teams more aware while breaking stale mates.
Viperjust ban all the bullshit weapons that the community has been calling for to be banned like the rescue ranger, natascha, machina, jarate, etc.
no this makes no sense
full time heavy with natascha is useless
machina doesn't really change much
jarate I can understand but I think it has potential to break stealmates and it can be funny
rescue ranger doesnt matter, two stickies is all it takes. rangering your gun back into spawn is risky at best.
I think the whitelist is fine right now as long as offclasses don't become better than the generalist. I think making an off class more viable in its situational utility is fine as long as it doesnt break the game.
that makes sense. Im just glad there's a win limit. Matches will be great still
shame, I would have liked to see this new format. I wish they could have found away to schedule it. Also no one has a right to complain about it. It's their tournament. NA players have always had to play on eu rules so its not that different.
i was intrested in seeing how the 45 minute was going to play out, that's too bad.
Still need people? Id like to try for roamer