except you're basically the only conservative arguing right now and the rest of us are liberals? one person wants to close the thread and suddenly its GOD DAMN THESE PESKY LIBERALS THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE

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wtf is even your argument? so 1/700,000 makes it a fucking giant problem, enough to not allow trans people to enter bathrooms of their preferred gender? how is "1/700,000" even an argument that just makes u look stupid because u seriously care that much about that 1 trans person who is a rapist, enough to ban ALL TRANS PEOPLE from using the restroom of their preferred gender, but not the hundreds of thousands of cis people who are rapists, and those who rape trans people. that's like saying some people use knives to stab people, so we should ban knives.

he doesn't identify as one it's clear throughout the entire article, people like this just make trans people look bad that doesn't mean trans people should be punished as a whole because of some terrible people. the facts are this: actual trans people have 0 cases of sexual assault against cis in public bathrooms. ur post is literally cis guy vs cis women i don't understand. plus, if you really believe that is a problem, what about all the trans people being sexually assaulted on a daily basis by cis people because they're forced to be in a bathroom that doesn't fit their gender identity?

who cares that 1 of every 2 transgender individuals experience being sexually assaulted in their life. 1 2 3

basically my point is either way you go, that kind of shit is going to happen. but if you let trans people go into the bathroom they identify as it will happen less often if you're including everyone (aka yes trans people aswell)

like as you say, we have it now: Disgusting VILE "trans" women will go into women's bathrooms and sexually assault women, so the solution would be to not allow that right?

but if that were not allowed, trans women will just be fucking sexually assaulted in men's bathrooms, far more often than cis people getting sexually assaulted by trans people.

imagine

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her in a men's bathroom because by your standards your method would prevent sexual assault, so she wouldn't be sexually assaulted in a men's bathroom? (she's trans if you can't tell)

tl;dr explain your solution because it seems like what you want to do will just cause more sexual assault ironically, but instead to trans people

this literally includes a strawman, false equivalence, and a slippery slope fallacy all in one fucking post. maybe even more. holy shit.

heeeere we go again

well, that is what i thought it was, by the tone of how it was written. its a common argument against social justice and treating people like normal human beings, that the past was better, etc. etc. so that's how i interpreted it. my bad.

plus you were agreeing with magikarp who said "back when humanity wasn't as disappointing." and then you agreed using an example of how society is disappointing (or at least it seemed like it) because if today spiderman was released using a joke that dehumanized being gay, people would throw a fit. as if it's ridiculous that people would be upset. but if that wasn't your intention i apologize lol

aww i can't dehumanize gay people anymore :(
like if you're using the idea of someone being gay as an insult it's not some kind of crazy sjw bullshit that people are gonna be upset by that

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you LITERALLY just said white people should be judged better and treated better, then asked why you're being called a racist what the fuck

but they can see your adam's apple, or your big shoulders, or your wide face and prominent jaw. (or reverse for trans men)
it's not like every transition causes all trans people to look completely cisgender and passing, in fact post op causes more problems society wise than pre op, because at least pre-op trans people pass as cis, transitioning is far more than just "change the sex organs!!" so yes you could easily say post op trans people are more likely to become suicidal especially if the transition didn't cause them to fully turn out like that dude i posted on the first page and society laughs at them because they think they're a drag queen crossdresser or something

i already actively listen to both (beach house is also on my chart too) maybe i should make a list of shoegaze bands i'm already aware of so there's less confusion when recommending me things hahahah

beach house, slowdive, my bloody valentine, ride, sun dial, paik, coaltar of the deepers, medicine, sweet trip, lush, malory, adorable, kairon; IRSE!, fleeting joys, catherine wheel, lsd and the search for god, whirr, astrobrite, crash city saints, alcian blue, air formation, engineers, lilys, fishmans, brian jonestown massacre, the jesus and mary chain, the ecstasy of saint theresa, all natural lemon and lime flavors, have a nice life, doves, pale saints, the verve, starflyer 59, pinkshinyultrablast, and ulrich schnauss

aaand all the artists that have been already mentioned in this thread. so don't rec me one of these artists :> sorry for the confusion

as do gay people, it's almost as if society's awful treatment of trans people leads to a high suicide rate, on TOP of the already established gender dysphoria and internal conflict.

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