This is actually a big thing, good damage in chokes doesnt really matter anymore becausw of the crossbow. But valves change might fix that. The crossbow will have crit heals and heal less (from my understanding) if someone took damage recently

Edit: My bad, healing isnt being changed, only ubercharge building

Edit2: reducing fire/reload and draw speed could be an intresting change. Or just nerf the healing of the crossbow.

I totally agree, also its somewhat in peoples mind that you have to play like that these days

I agree fully on this. Allthough it could make teams not push out of last to reset into another midfight it would be very intresting to experiment on different roundtimers. Isnt there a command like mp_roundtime? In that case it could be tested in a 1 night cup or something

Maybe a 50% knockback nerf for hit scan weapons could be intresting. Very drastic change though

Im definately pro more koth maps. The 7 lowpandee game was an example. Generally tf2 overall has grown way more stalematey the last 2 years or so.

I guess you are right that people dont practise stalemate breaking properly.

Sure there was stalemates in 2014 but not as much as now. Just makes me wonder if thats something that people has just adapted to and decided is the way to play tf2 or if it is because of the medic movespeed buff, crossbow buff?

In my opinion as scout it is not fun with stalemates unless you offclass. And its definately very boring to watch

Prem games tend to be alot more stalematey than high games for instance

That doesnt solve the issue. Longer spawn times when you are attacking last is a better solution in that case so its easier to push out from last. I'm thinking about all maps thoigh so not only badlands

What do we do to reduce stalemates?

In my opinion to get tf2 to grow further and prevent people from getting bored and quit we need to have exciting games being played and casted. I don't think it helps when the game being casted is so slow and stalematey that even the casters are bored. An example is the game between 7 and lowpander yesterday where on badlands lowpander held last for 30 minutes or something crazy including full time and golden cap. They managed to push out and cap spire a few times but then having to retreat to last again

Maybe its just me missing the old aggressive era of tf2 but I really think it makes games alot more intresting to watch and also to play.

My question is, how to we reward aggressive plays and make stalemates less rewarding? Is that even something people would want? Is it a map issue or an issue with the 5cp format with round timers etc or maybe even an issue with the class balancing. Would changing the roundtime in the etf2l config help?

Let me know what you guys think!

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