I usually pick up my mouse slightly before I turn.

or do you mean during?

It just feels like im wasting so much time switching it all the time.

Been playing with 15.1 for the last half hour and it feels fine. I might just stick with this, it's perfectly fine for a scout I assume. I just don't want to get to a higher level and then find myself struggling to track other players as they whiz past me close.

Still struggling a bit with this.

Was at 15.6 inch per 360 but sometimes in tr_walkway it felt like if enemies went past me close, I couldn't spin fast enough to track them, even though aiming at what was in front of me was okay.

So I ramped up my sens to 14.3 and now it feels comfortable and I can spin at a good speed, but I've lost a lot of precision. Hitting snipers that shimmy a few yards to avoid me is tough for me now. Shall I just stick with this sens and expect that I'll regain my precision in a bit of time?

Apparently Starkie plays on 17 or 20 inches or something and seems fine (fine being an epic understatement), so maybe I'm inventing an issue. Wasting so much time trying to find the perfect sens.
This is driving me nuts.

That's fine mate, thanks. I really don't mind the idea of having to practice, as long as I improve.

I just want my tracking to develop.

I have a Pyrus Sades.

Cheapish, but it seems ok.

Sure, but I'd like to have really good dm too.

I'm only at 500 hours and getting into comp, but in 500 hours time I want to have made real progress you know.
My aim is fine for my level I guess.

^^ I don't know if it's slow. I haven't a clue. TF2 is the first game I even used a mouse for since I got a pc a few years back. I also play on a 1/2 metre x 1/2 metre chest of drawers, so space is tight.

Alright thanks.

I'm not quite sure how to improve my aiming. I know DM servers can be recommended, but I'm so much worse than the scouts (i'm trying to hit) in those servers, that I'm not learning anything because I'm dead before I have time to focus on them. Pubs I can often pound in, but I barely need to aim because smart flanking is enough, so maybe I need to just focus on tracking rather than killing.

I guess I was wondering whether it's something you get used to. So on maybe 12/360 I struggle now, but will I likely get good with it long term and am I struggling just because I'm not used to it?

edit: right, okay thanks. I'm just looking to improve my tracking as scout really. Any ideas?

I play scout mostly and I have a sens of about 15inches per 360 (1600dpi and 0.66 in-game sens), with no mouse accel in game or windows.

Is this too slow do you think?

I went on a DM server today and got crushed, I couldn't hit a thing, and it got me thinking about it. Should I learn to use a higher sens or stick with what feel safe and easy? I'm concerned that I won't be able to react enough against better players. Tbh, my tracking of stationary targets in tr walkway as I strafe round them isn't even that good. I have utterly crap tracking and I'm not sure how to fix it, so I guess I'm seeing sensitivity as the starting block. I tend to change sens every few weeks really.

One of my favourite medics.

But I'm a noob, so take that as you will.

Interesting.

I think his alternative style is really interesting though. Maybe it's a case of balance (as most things are in life), but some of his medic picks,for example, show that elements of what he did are incredibly useful and the key is maybe moderation.

It's actually a question you get across most sports isn't it; flashy and extravagant or safer and reliable?

Firstly I love the game. I genuinely think it's amazing and have since I installed it 2 years ago.

Secondly, watching players like Clockwork, Shrugger etc, reinvigorates my desire to be able to do what they can do and more. After watching them play I want to move and aim like they can. and they only way to do that is to keep playing.

Getting beat is also a reminder that I need to play more. I played comp for the first time the other day. We won but I bottomscored as demo (in fairness I missed the first mins because i was trying (and failed) to join mumble). I killed more than died, had some decent point presence and area denial, but I saw much better players in that game alone, which makes me want to match them and play more.

Yeah that worked, thank you.

Even if I type " sv_allow_point_servercommand always" into console and "retry".

Tr walkway doesnt spawn bots either but the above seems to fix it. Any ideas?

Fixed, thanks all.

Back to the demoman discussion, where does Kaidus rank? Out of interest.