Wow, I wish someone linked me this thread. Maybe I have to clear up some stuff. It will be two parts, one why I started raging, the other with maybe some background information about competitive TF2.
I basically "quit" competitive for over a year now because of my current job. I currently work at ESL TV and therefore work mostly in the evenings or are away to an event for 10 days.
The reason I posted this was because I had very bad experiences for 2 weeks in a row with TF2. It was Christmas holiday and I finally had time to play a lot of TF2.
Sadly every mix/lobby/pug I played ended in to a disaster. People leaving, people not showing up, people showing up 30 minutes late, people not on Mumble. Okay, sometimes this happens, but if it's match after match it really gets to you at some point.
I'm not saying other communities are better in general, the DotA 2 community is definitely not the right example, neither is CS:GO or any other game. I think TF2 community is one of the better communities out there.
But when it comes down to competitive TF2, in my opinion the community is very lazy and spoiled. I never experienced an official 6v6 match that started at the agreed time.
Always delay, people smoking one more cigarette, going for a piss, getting a glass of water. I have to blame myself for this too, I always got coffee and water right before the match, so I sometimes delayed it too.
The "community" complains TF2 is not being taken seriously by the esports communities/companies and we sort of have to blame ourself for that.
I agree, ETF2L is an amazing website, just because it's so easy and everything is about TF2. But we want(ed) the bigger competitions and we bailed out on ESL when we had the chance.
At the time the ESL anti-cheat was very buggy for TF2, a lot of people with crashes, FPS problems and so on. So it's not all to blame on us. But with ETF2L around that worked "good" and "flawless", it was very easy to pop back over to there.
ESL looks a lot at activity on the website, if a game has weekly cups that are very popular, there's a big chance it will be added to the Go4 system. Which means money cups every week with a bigger prize pool at the end of the month with the qualified teams. From there on a intentional sponsor might be interested to add it to the EMS (One) (soon to be ESL One). Where you have a lot of qualifiers with LAN finals in the end.
It's amazing how we built up something like ETF2L and that it's still going strong. It might be a bit too late now, but sticking with websites like UGC and ETF2L are not going to bring competitive TF2 forward.
People must know that there are a lot of "higher up" people in esports (not calling names) really like TF2. Hell, even CGS had it in their Pro-Am circuit.
Anyway, I'm back to playing TF2 every now and then, sadly with still quite some bad experiences and I'm actually looking to backup for a 9v9 plat team or div1 6v6 team.
I'm also trying to go to i52 (with Exfane) if a big chunk of the community shows up.
Feel free to ask questions in here, I'll keep an eye on the thread.
numlockedhe will always be the scout that got 3 frags in the i43 grand final on badlands to me. <3 you qun
I had 5 you dick head and I was positive on the other two maps <3