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#805 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
PsychotropicESEA-ShooterJDMYoshiokaEven a 1 week extension would help greatly Shooter. Please make it happen. Our main team will pay up asap.You think it would bring the number of teams to the goal?
The strategy of telling players to pay up or lose the league has not worked.
There was already a week to join and pay up, and very few did. Mostly because people were very skeptical as to whether ESEA would exist.

The solution is simple:
Promise a season!
Tell the community that NEXT season's existence is contingent upon THIS season's participation
Cut the prize pot so you can afford it (people are not playing for the money!)
Keep the Lan
THEN Extend the deadline

After that, keep an OPEN dialogue with the community and work to regain their trust.
I'm not saying you don't deserve their trust, or that you are untrustworthy. I'm saying there is a segment of the community that does not trust you. It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong; it simply is. Win it back.

That, in my opinion, is how ESEA survives.

Can't promise a season when ESEA only has ~5 teams fully paid in total (see previous posts).
I outlined the # of teams for each division previously to have 4 divisions.
Why cutting the prize pot?
LAN will always happen as long as TF2 has an Invite division.

I'm always open to discussion, and can be reached on ESEA pretty quickly :)

posted about 10 years ago
#800 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
JDMYoshiokaEven a 1 week extension would help greatly Shooter. Please make it happen. Our main team will pay up asap.

You think it would bring the number of teams to the goal?

posted about 10 years ago
#799 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
ghettomaybe a miracle happen all we have to do is believe

We all believe :)

posted about 10 years ago
#780 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion

I think, with these numbers, a 4 divisions would be very good.

Invite - 9
Main - 14
Intermediate - 16
Open - 30

posted about 10 years ago
#778 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
Mangachuis this shooter guy actually shooter he only has two past aliases

I'm the real one :)

posted about 10 years ago
#767 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
kaceHow many teams across every division need to be paid up for there to be a season (2 or 4 divs)?

Running the different scenarios, I'll get back to you.

posted about 10 years ago
#763 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
m4risaWould a 2 division season have a LAN?

Invite is always on LAN, something ESEA has always done for their Invite divisions.

posted about 10 years ago
#762 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
spaceghostpurrpShooter quick question, my team is down to pay league fees but lets say that we pay our league fees (17.95 for ESEA Main) and you guys decide to kill off that division and we move down to ESEA IM (13.95). Since IM league fees are cheaper do we get a refund for the difference in league fee between the two divisions?

Yes, if that's the option ESEA picks, and merge divisions - you would be refunded your Main fees, and you would need to repay for Intermediate.

posted about 10 years ago
#748 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
thrasherOk so ESEA has 2 different plans in mind. Please TELL US what those plans are. You should probably get some feedback from us first. This will of course require you to extend registration. There is no way we will get ~50 teams fully paid in the next few hours, especially if we have no idea what the "plans" are.

- extend registration
- tell us the options
- give us time to pay

Extending registration is always an option for us, depending the numbers we have once we close it.
The prefered options is to have the 4 divisions (like I said earlier) Invite/Main/Intermediate/Open.

I'll run some numbers, and I'll post here the minimum. Would that help?

posted about 10 years ago
#743 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
marmadukeGRYLLSI dig that people would get refunded but my point is if people are a little tight on cash/worried about how long the delay will be on a refund why not guarantee the season if that's what it takes?

More people would be interested if you guys were more vocal man, look at how many cevo idiots post walls of text on here about random shit. like someone just posted this list of things "cevo did for us" and it was shit like "made cevo servers available for matches" and "made players pay $15 to pay and then made a prize pot with that money" like this is a big deal or some selfless act of cevo.

DO SOMETHING PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The refund wouldn't be very long to process on our end (not sure about how Paypal does it, though).

I can't guarantee a season, but if enough teams sign up, ESEA will really look into it to have a season. Look at last season's number, and compare to this season... :S

posted about 10 years ago
#741 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
marmadukeGRYLLSESEA-Shooter[

We have different options in mind, but at the moment, 0 Main, 2 Intermediate, and 2 Open teams paid. That's 4 teams total ready on about ~55 teams combined. I don't think removing divisons would be very welcomed, but I can be wrong.

you need to be more vocal about what options you're considering/keeping us updated. telling people we will have an esea season no matter what would get a LOT of teams paid up. word on the street is that esea is dead so i dont think you're gonna see very many people paying up regardless of if that's true or not.

no offense to you directly, but you guys are shitting the bed and should probably stop doing that.

I think ESEA has said pretty much since the beginning that anyone who registered would be refunded if at the end not enough teams showed interests to play on ESEA.

Before announcing options, I think it would be worth it to keep the 4 divisions format, simply because it would be the best season so far (as I've heard...).

posted about 10 years ago
#736 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
defyESEA-ShooterAlright, so much for my first Teamfortress.TV post, but here it is.

First of all, Killing's in class, so he couldn't answer any of these replies during the day, he had a midterm, but we spoke a few minutes ago.

I am Shooter, League Commissioner for ESEA League. Validation right here; https://play.esea.net/users/131406

As Killing said in previous replies on other threads, in other to have a season of the League, Invite/Main/Intermediate teams need to be paid before we close registration, and we need to have enough teams in the Open division. If the final decision is to NOT have a TF2 season (due to NOT enough teams) within ESEA, everyone who paid league fees will be refunded, once the decision has been taken (it can take a few days).

this thread is already 25 pages deep, i'm not sure if killing already addressed this but has the option of gutting main + im and having open + invite been discussed at all? what sort of options/flexibility do you have there

We have different options in mind, but at the moment, 0 Main, 2 Intermediate, and 2 Open teams paid. That's 4 teams total ready on about ~55 teams combined. I don't think removing divisons would be very welcomed, but I can be wrong.

posted about 10 years ago
#730 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion
pokemonizepicShooter please save us

ESEA really want to continue to support the TF2 community, but to do that ESEA needs to have paid teams signed up to the League.

posted about 10 years ago
#728 ESEA's possible demise? in TF2 General Discussion

Alright, so much for my first Teamfortress.TV post, but here it is.

First of all, Killing's in class, so he couldn't answer any of these replies during the day, he had a midterm, but we spoke a few minutes ago.

I am Shooter, League Commissioner for ESEA League. Validation right here; https://play.esea.net/users/131406

As Killing said in previous replies on other threads, in other to have a season of the League, Invite/Main/Intermediate teams need to be paid before we close registration, and we need to have enough teams in the Open division. If the final decision is to NOT have a TF2 season (due to NOT enough teams) within ESEA, everyone who paid league fees will be refunded, once the decision has been taken (it can take a few days).

posted about 10 years ago
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