If you want to compare it to csgo, then actually think about it.

TF2
tf2c = lowest level
pugme/ESEA pugs = highest level

CSGO
Matchmaking = lowest level (until you get to ~supreme/global)
CEVO pugs = somewhat similar to matchmaking in terms of skill, depending on your rank, obviously.
ESEA pugs = highest level

Matchmaking, if done correctly, should replace tf2c at the low levels. There isn't a need for an external website for the lowest levels of tf2 if matchmaking is good. A smarter idea would be to expand pugme to replicate something like CEVO pugs in csgo if it is needed once matchmaking comes out.

If an external website is needed for the lowest level of tf2, then matchmaking is a failed attempt.

Edit: I forgot about tf2pickup, which is similar to pugme

I don't think anybody doubts that there could be another successful alternative to tf2c, but you have to realize it will be relatively useless in the end with the remaining time before matchmaking. Is there really a point of making a new website, funding money and time that won't be used anymore, in what it seems to be possibly a few weeks/months from matchmaking? I suppose you can say that it's possible matchmaking won't be good, so it could still be used, but the whole point of this website is to provide a transition from pubs to competitive. I can't see a matchmaking system that doesn't provide a transition at the least. Maybe I'm wrong and Valve will manage to mess everything up though.

helo

Are you actually comparing forn and the tf2center admins like masternoob...?

heh

ROFL !

No

Counting ubers correctly can be difficult/random now. For example, if the other team's med dies, you don't really know if he will be able to pick up the previous medigun before it disappears in 30 seconds. I guess it can take some map knowledge of knowing how long it takes to get from a certain spawn to where he died.

30 sec

Not sure if you're taking individual requests, but could you update one of the older yahuds? I'm not really sure which yahud I personally have, but it's one of the older ones from 2013 that has never been updated. Here are the resource and scripts folders (it hasn't been updated in 2 years) https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1uyxoa7mcffhxt/2013yahud.rar?dl=0

few things that aren't updated: damage and support on scoreboard, taunt menu, eureka effect menu, at the end of the round it doesn't display the "highest killstreak", killstreak counter doesn't say "streak" and all the new gun-manntle stuff obviously.

thanks :)

Banny was nice enough to give you a refund. The least you could do is actually explain why you feel this way.

Are you gonna take that Bobby?

Cloudmaker is shit

Nice frags b4nny!

There must be a flaw in the system. Mukhtar has never gotten +fragged

http://www.teamfortress.tv/user/Mukhtar1