Hello tftv humans.
There are points that could be made as for reasons why each of the 3 teams mentioned should play prem, most of which have already been mentioned in this thread. I’ll give my individual reasoning behind joining my team and playing div1 since I’ve been specifically mentioned by opti, as well as make a few admissions with the power of hindsight. I’ll also give my opinions on why I feel my team aren’t the biggest offenders in this mess.
If it wasn’t for corona virus I wouldn’t be playing the season, for the past couple of years I’ve only been playing tf2 when I’ve been off uni at the holidays, taking multiple months off at a time. Then corona happened and I was home early meaning I’d be able to play the season. I had intended on playing scout and played in the lockdown throwdown thing which didn’t go brilliantly. I realised that I didn’t enjoy playing scout anywhere near as much as I enjoyed soldier. I hadn’t fully made my mind up if I wanted to play the season until I noticed Funs had joined a div1 team after being asked by Graba. Funs and I are quite close, and I asked if his team needed a roamer, at which point he asked Graba and I trialed for the team and joined. Throughout doing this it hadn’t even occurred to me that we could be accused of sandbagging, although it probably should have. I hasn’t aware of deli’s record in prem and I thought utka was just some funny little russian bloke who wasn’t very good (he is). I knew Graba had played prem years ago and I knew silves and that he hadn’t played prem. Obviously I was aware that me and Funs have both been on top prems teams on the same classes we are playing now. I can only speak for myself here but I don’t consider myself being anywhere near as good as I once was and I thought that me not having played in a team in two years would have been justification enough to play div1.
Opti_But, from what I have heard (correct me if I'm wrong there), chris and funs said that if they were put in prem, they would simply not play.
Yes, this is true although once I again I cannot speak for Funs. I hadn’t intended on playing prem from the start. I’m not willing to put as much time into the game as I once did in order to play at the best level I can which I would feel compelled to do if I played prem. I wouldn’t be happy playing at the top level whilst not trying my best and committing to the game. I’m also only playing this one season so playing prem and not enjoying myself seemed pointless. Throughout the process of joining the team prem was never mentioned once, the idea behind the team was to have a chill season in div1 so when people started suggesting that we should have to play prem due to another team dropping out, I wasn’t a fan of the idea. So yes, I did tell my team that I wouldn’t want to play If we played prem. There was never any intention of putting the admins in a tough spot and I apologise for that. It wasn’t as if anyone on the team strongly wanted to play prem. Most people were only ok with the idea of playing prem if we were forced to, but would rather play div1. I'm aware the my reasonings behind not playing prem will not be sufficient enough for most, but I'm simply being honest. As for the comments that me and my team are “pussys” for not playing prem all I can say is u are what u eat.
In hindsight, if I’d know the actual ability of the people on the team before joining, I’d have been more reluctant to join as the sandbagging accusations would have been more predictable.
Having said all of this however, this situation would not have happened had boinicle not decided to first agree to play prem and then suddenly change their minds. Sure, my team and others would still be accused of sandbagging and what not but the outcome of the current situation is that a team that most feel shouldn’t be in prem now are which is far from the desired outcome. It’s a very regrettable situation but as I said, in my opinion this situation would have been avoided if boinicle where told they couldn’t suddenly decide they didn’t to play prem anymore, despite going through qualifiers.
funhaver1998its like a chess player with 2600 elo deciding never to compete in tournaments and just playing vs homeless people in washington square park
I also want to use this quote to point out some of the hyperbole when talking about this situation. It's not like my team or either of the other teams mentioned in this thread are playing in open, we're playing in the tier below prem. There will be close games against other div1 teams not mentioned in this thread.