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#27 Gunboats Pocket in TF2 General Discussion

testifyIt lets you tank your scouts more which is good, I don't see any reason to not run them on midfights at least.

Especially with a new skin incoming.

posted about 10 years ago

#623 Saloon.tf in Projects

But ESEA do disallow betting against yourself, this is the main reason.

posted about 10 years ago

#621 Saloon.tf in Projects

Still the further we go into the season the clearer it'll look how the table is going to shape up. There's nothing discouraging anyone from betting against himself and then winning GC, giving away just one point and getting potentially a massive payout.
All you know then is that he bet against himself, but without a rule disallowing that how can you be sure that he was throwing? Maybe the odds were great and he thought - oh well the other team is not that weak we may go into GC.

posted about 10 years ago

#619 Saloon.tf in Projects

SideshowETF2L's stance is more that they don't think it's up to them to regulate the betting, and it should be done by Cherry. I think that's sensible and Cherry's view that betting on your own team but not against is a good idea.

However I don't agree with removing the spread bets. Every point matters in a season and saying that there is "no incentive to play fairly" and expecting people to throw games now that ETF2L is not going to ban you for betting against yourself is dumb. 3 reasons why:

1. A ban from saloontf is enough of a deterrent to stop people betting against themselves openly. It would be stupid, they know you check the games to make sure it doesn't happen, so that changes nothing.

2. If they were going to throw beforehand it would have been with an alt account, throwing the game for massive amounts of ecurrency. The deterrent was, and still is, that in Prem all the points matter. You can't throw a game even if there was spread betting and you only lost 1 point - that single point could be the difference between you getting into playoffs, or getting 1st or 2nd seed etc. The deterrent for throwing has not been removed.

3. A lack of spread betting this season means that only 4 games all season will be allowed as far as I can see. That's really dumb imo for engaging with a european audience for your website, especially when spread betting works so much better than it does in ESEA. Yes they get banned for throwing in ESEA, but let's take the Froyo vs. Cafe Monsters game for example: it wasn't a throw for skins, but if you had made that game spread betting and the result was the same with froyo messing about, it would certainly look that way. They can throw rounds with no penalty and no way of telling whether they really did throw or not. At least in ETF2L there is a penalty if you throw in a spread game.SideshowI don't think it's ETF2L's place to ban people for betting on or against their own team. It's not their site. The only thing you should be banned from ETF2L for is if you throw games or are betting on teams with the knowledge that games are gonna be thrown. As for people just betting against themselves (which is normally gonna happen in ignorance of the rules by a player on a bad team) just let cherry warn them, nullify the bet and if necessary ban them from saloon.

1. All league and competitions in real world as well as some virtual ones policy it as it also affects their reputation and following.
The reason why I thought of it as a good idea was because we all have common goals (bookie and leagues) and banning players just by me would in no way discourage others from throwing since that's not a punishment at all. Just makes it slightly harder whereas a potential ban from a league could greatly discourage those who want to throw.

2. I can easily imagine a team like TLR giving away 1 point and still being in playoffs.

3. This doesn't matter that much given the update I got, but the issue was that while it's clear when someone bets against his team (as well as his intentions are clear) whether it was intentional throw or not was subject to the opinion of the admins. I believe that everything leading to a match fix should be bannable if it can be documented.

posted about 10 years ago

#4 ETF2L Premiership Week 2: 4-25 vs. Reason Gaming in Events

Game refunded, sorry guys.

posted about 10 years ago

#611 Saloon.tf in Projects

To make everything clear.
As ETF2L decided to allow betting both on yourself and against your team I want to remind everyone that even if your league allows to do so betting against your team is against Saloon.tf's rules and may get you banned from all our activities and future events (including sponsored ones if that happens).

You may get away betting on your team in leagues that allow that though as we're more loose in that matter.

I'm also going to stop adding all ETF2L games that require spread and refund them, as well as vastly reduce amount of HL games added in the future since there is a valid competitior in that gamemode.

Current status:
ESEA - betting on any outcome disallowed
ozfortress - betting on any outcome disallowed
ETF2L - betting both against and for your team allowed
AsiaFortress - betting against your team (and maybe for it) to be disallowed
UGC - no statement yet, pending query

posted about 10 years ago

#23 ETF2L Premiership Week 2: Danger Dogs by TF2Pickup.net vs. LEGO in Events

rock-Confirmed not slav, just surroundid by id... emh slavs

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http://onwardtoourpast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Slav-Union.jpg?cd1d79

Hungarians be like: where the fuck did we take a wrong turn.

posted about 10 years ago

#21 ETF2L Premiership Week 2: Danger Dogs by TF2Pickup.net vs. LEGO in Events

BonafideThat map has nothing to do with slavs, but with the finno-ugric languages.
Quote from wiki "At the time of the Magyar migration, the present-day Hungary was inhabited by Slavs, numbering about 200,000"

The kind of languages Finno-Ugrian people speak as they have a common place of origin near the Ural mountains.
Do you think they just learned it over the internet?

posted about 10 years ago

#19 ETF2L Premiership Week 2: Danger Dogs by TF2Pickup.net vs. LEGO in Events

Hallowat first i thought no one took this wannabe english kid serious. then all of a sudden people acknowledge him or something??? luckily i was mistaken; he is universally hated as the dirty slav he is

Hungarians are not Slavs idiot. Actually they're closer to the average Swedish.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Lenguas_finougrias.png

posted about 10 years ago

#56 make a pickup line one word one post at a time in The Dumpster

Very smooth spammy. I intended to go to the movies first :/

posted about 10 years ago

#33 2015 Highlander Draft (Today @ 8 EST!) in Events

Will there be a coverage?

posted about 10 years ago

#54 make a pickup line one word one post at a time in The Dumpster

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