My poopy laptop that I have been using for several years died recently, and I am looking forwards to finally investing in a desktop computer I can render (some 3D) and play games on (mainly TF2). I want to know what sort of parts I can get for a decent price, but I was thinking something like this in the 1000-1500$ range.
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4820K Quad-Core 3.70 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (going to oc to like 4.4GHz)
HDD: 256GB ADATA SP900 SSD + 3TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
MEMORY: 16GB DDR3/2133MHz Quad Channel Memory
MOTHERBOARD: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX w/ Winki 3, OC Genie II, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card
Now, this is going to be my first build. Are there any things in particular I should watch out for? I have had people suggest I get an AMD processor because the NVidia drivers are shit. Any confirmations regarding that? And what do you think would be the bottleneck in this build? If I am going to do some 3D rendering, should I invest in a better GPU?
And lastly, what kind of frames should I expect in TF2 with this with this? I'll almost definitely use an FPS config, but if I can't get 144fps with vsync after spending this much money I'm going to be disappointed.
My poopy laptop that I have been using for several years died recently, and I am looking forwards to finally investing in a desktop computer I can render (some 3D) and play games on (mainly TF2). I want to know what sort of parts I can get for a decent price, but I was thinking something like this in the 1000-1500$ range.
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4820K Quad-Core 3.70 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (going to oc to like 4.4GHz)
HDD: 256GB ADATA SP900 SSD + 3TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD
MEMORY: 16GB DDR3/2133MHz Quad Channel Memory
MOTHERBOARD: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX w/ Winki 3, OC Genie II, GbLAN, 3 Gen3 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card
Now, this is going to be my first build. Are there any things in particular I should watch out for? I have had people suggest I get an AMD processor because the NVidia drivers are shit. Any confirmations regarding that? And what do you think would be the bottleneck in this build? If I am going to do some 3D rendering, should I invest in a better GPU?
And lastly, what kind of frames should I expect in TF2 with this with this? I'll almost definitely use an FPS config, but if I can't get 144fps with vsync after spending this much money I'm going to be disappointed.
You're spending too much money on your processor relative to your video card. TF2 is processor-dependent so it will run well, but literally every other modern game in existence will benefit more from a better GPU.
You're spending too much money on your processor relative to your video card. TF2 is processor-dependent so it will run well, but literally every other modern game in existence will benefit more from a better GPU.
MasterKuniYou're spending too much money on your processor relative to your video card. TF2 is processor-dependent so it will run well, but literally every other modern game in existence will benefit more from a better GPU.
Well for rendering, most tools are more CPU intensive, though some CAD tools now use GPU more. I was also under the impression that the pre-render stage is more CPU as the CPU calculates vertices and the like but the GPU has to do the actual output to the screen. That being said, do you still think my processor is not very relative? What would you suggest as an alternative?
[quote=MasterKuni]You're spending too much money on your processor relative to your video card. TF2 is processor-dependent so it will run well, but literally every other modern game in existence will benefit more from a better GPU.[/quote]
Well for rendering, most tools are more CPU intensive, though some CAD tools now use GPU more. I was also under the impression that the pre-render stage is more CPU as the CPU calculates vertices and the like but the GPU has to do the actual output to the screen. That being said, do you still think my processor is not very relative? What would you suggest as an alternative?
PhunkWell for rendering, most tools are more CPU intensive, though some CAD tools now use GPU more. I was also under the impression that the pre-render stage is more CPU as the CPU calculates vertices and the like but the GPU has to do the actual output to the screen. That being said, do you still think my processor is not very relative? What would you suggest as an alternative?
I don't use 3D software so I can't speak to the necessity of having a faster CPU vs GPU. From what I've read, modern 3D rendering uses CPUs for computing vertices but they're probably going to offload that to the GPU within a few years, which would make much more sense since that's a highly parallelizable process. If you're going to be primarily playing TF2 and doing 3D work your current setup is probably the right choice for right now, but if you wanted to be more forward-thinking with your build you could go to Logical Increments and see if going down a tier in CPU and up a tier in GPU would provide you with an appropriate balance of performance. It's definitely you to you though.
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Well for rendering, most tools are more CPU intensive, though some CAD tools now use GPU more. I was also under the impression that the pre-render stage is more CPU as the CPU calculates vertices and the like but the GPU has to do the actual output to the screen. That being said, do you still think my processor is not very relative? What would you suggest as an alternative?[/quote]
I don't use 3D software so I can't speak to the necessity of having a faster CPU vs GPU. From what I've read, modern 3D rendering uses CPUs for computing vertices but they're probably going to offload that to the GPU within a few years, which would make much more sense since that's a highly parallelizable process. If you're going to be primarily playing TF2 and doing 3D work your current setup is probably the right choice for right now, but if you wanted to be more forward-thinking with your build you could go to [url=http://www.logicalincrements.com/]Logical Increments[/url] and see if going down a tier in CPU and up a tier in GPU would provide you with an appropriate balance of performance. It's definitely you to you though.
A 660 is way too weak if you're pairing it with that CPU
I'd recommend an i5-4670k and something more like a 770 if you can afford it if you're going to be using it mainly for videojuegos. An i7 has faster performance for things like rendering videos but the difference between the two in gaming is almost non existent and if you want to play new games a 770 would make a massive difference
I'm pretty sure you could hit 144 fps ez in 6s games with TF2 on max quality so no issues there
A 660 is way too weak if you're pairing it with that CPU
I'd recommend an i5-4670k and something more like a 770 if you can afford it if you're going to be using it mainly for videojuegos. An i7 has faster performance for things like rendering videos but the difference between the two in gaming is almost non existent and if you want to play new games a 770 would make a massive difference
I'm pretty sure you could hit 144 fps ez in 6s games with TF2 on max quality so no issues there