zigzterenigmazigzterOr prizes that aren't money? You can't tell me you play competitive TF2 for the money.
what prize is actually worthwhile enough to induce competition that isn't money?
I guess I should've elaborated. I meant who plays TF2 for prizes at all? I just think if you want prizes, it shouldn't be money, especially since the majority of players who'd participate in this league would be ESEA players, so it'd be difficult to convince them to cough up more money for another league. (Unless the plan is to get the prize money from a different source, which I can't see happening.)
Sure, no one lives on winning TF2, but on one hand you have great competitions like ESEA LAN and on the other extreme, CEVO and UGC 6s, both of which have been varying degrees of bad. In order to motivate for good games, there's gotta be some kind of motivator somewhere.
That said, this whole discussion is moot because we can't do it.
[quote=zigzter][quote=enigma][quote=zigzter]Or prizes that aren't money? You can't tell me you play competitive TF2 for the money.[/quote]
what prize is actually worthwhile enough to induce competition that isn't money?
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I guess I should've elaborated. I meant who plays TF2 for prizes at all? I just think if you want prizes, it shouldn't be money, especially since the majority of players who'd participate in this league would be ESEA players, so it'd be difficult to convince them to cough up more money for another league. (Unless the plan is to get the prize money from a different source, which I can't see happening.)[/quote]
Sure, no one lives on winning TF2, but on one hand you have great competitions like ESEA LAN and on the other extreme, CEVO and UGC 6s, both of which have been varying degrees of bad. In order to motivate for good games, there's gotta be some kind of motivator somewhere.
That said, this whole discussion is moot because we can't do it.
manazigzterI guess I should've elaborated. I meant who plays TF2 for prizes at all? I just think if you want prizes, it shouldn't be money, especially since the majority of players who'd participate in this league would be ESEA players, so it'd be difficult to convince them to cough up more money for another league. (Unless the plan is to get the prize money from a different source, which I can't see happening.)
Sure, no one lives on winning TF2, but on one hand you have great competitions like ESEA LAN and on the other extreme, CEVO and UGC 6s, both of which have been varying degrees of bad. In order to motivate for good games, there's gotta be some kind of motivator somewhere.
That said, this whole discussion is moot because we can't do it.
I think the difference between ESEA and CEVO/UGC isn't the prizes, it's the fact that ESEA is pay-to-play. Not many people are willing to pay $28 just to goof around, therefore the competition in ESEA is much fiercer.
That's my reasoning anyways..
[quote=mana][quote=zigzter]
I guess I should've elaborated. I meant who plays TF2 for prizes at all? I just think if you want prizes, it shouldn't be money, especially since the majority of players who'd participate in this league would be ESEA players, so it'd be difficult to convince them to cough up more money for another league. (Unless the plan is to get the prize money from a different source, which I can't see happening.)[/quote]
Sure, no one lives on winning TF2, but on one hand you have great competitions like ESEA LAN and on the other extreme, CEVO and UGC 6s, both of which have been varying degrees of bad. In order to motivate for good games, there's gotta be some kind of motivator somewhere.
That said, this whole discussion is moot because we can't do it.[/quote]
I think the difference between ESEA and CEVO/UGC isn't the prizes, it's the fact that ESEA is pay-to-play. Not many people are willing to pay $28 just to goof around, therefore the competition in ESEA is much fiercer.
That's my reasoning anyways..
zigzterI think the difference between ESEA and CEVO/UGC isn't the prizes, it's the fact that ESEA is pay-to-play. Not many people are willing to pay $28 just to goof around, therefore the competition in ESEA is much fiercer.
That's my reasoning anyways..
Oh, I totally agree; I must've misread something but that's definitely what I meant by hitting a middle spot; enough investment to want to legitimately play matches.
[quote=zigzter]I think the difference between ESEA and CEVO/UGC isn't the prizes, it's the fact that ESEA is pay-to-play. Not many people are willing to pay $28 just to goof around, therefore the competition in ESEA is much fiercer.
That's my reasoning anyways..[/quote]
Oh, I totally agree; I must've misread something but that's definitely what I meant by hitting a middle spot; enough investment to want to legitimately play matches.
I think what needs to happen in order for the tournament to take off is, enigma has to set up a group of Admins with volunteers that would handle the tournament. The group can plan the tournament; registrations, time dates etc. I am sure getting servers would not be difficult to use for the tournament we could ask tragic to help out and set some servers aside for the tournament for how long the tournament runs like he does for Newbie mixes. Then there could be like a pre-tournament to test out how everything goes and how smooth the tournament would run after that there could be a donation type of thing where everyone can donate money for the prize pool for when the actual tournament starts that way there is some type of prize pool.
I think what needs to happen in order for the tournament to take off is, enigma has to set up a group of Admins with volunteers that would handle the tournament. The group can plan the tournament; registrations, time dates etc. I am sure getting servers would not be difficult to use for the tournament we could ask tragic to help out and set some servers aside for the tournament for how long the tournament runs like he does for Newbie mixes. Then there could be like a pre-tournament to test out how everything goes and how smooth the tournament would run after that there could be a donation type of thing where everyone can donate money for the prize pool for when the actual tournament starts that way there is some type of prize pool.