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Legend of Korra
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Anyone else watching the new season? I recently got back into the franchise because I remember loving the original when I was a kid. Was just wondering if there were any other fans here and what you think of the new season so far.

Anyone else watching the new season? I recently got back into the franchise because I remember loving the original when I was a kid. Was just wondering if there were any other fans here and what you think of the new season so far.
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HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY OUT NOW? I should have followed it closer, I actually fucking love these series, it's like disney movies, can be enjoyed by both yound & old

HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY OUT NOW? I should have followed it closer, I actually fucking love these series, it's like disney movies, can be enjoyed by both yound & old
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Been keeping up since the original. I don't like it as much as the original, might have to watch it again, but this is still a good show. Also now that it's only being aired online, they can straight up kill people now.

Been keeping up since the original. I don't like it as much as the original, might have to watch it again, but this is still a good show. Also now that it's only being aired online, they can straight up kill people now.
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BonafideHOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY OUT NOW? I should have followed it closer, I actually fucking love these series, it's like disney movies, can be enjoyed by both yound & old

Yea season 4 premiered last Friday. The new episode comes out today.

[quote=Bonafide]HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY OUT NOW? I should have followed it closer, I actually fucking love these series, it's like disney movies, can be enjoyed by both yound & old[/quote]
Yea season 4 premiered last Friday. The new episode comes out today.
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Thought this would be a legend-of video of a player called Korra, colour me disappointed

Thought this would be a legend-of video of a player called Korra, colour me disappointed
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I've been watching it since it started, only because it's related to A:TLA. I'm so glad they put the episodes on Nick.com so I don't have to wait til it comes on TV. Btw, yeah, It's on Book 4, Episode 2 as of today.

Edit: Korra Alone tho

I've been watching it since it started, only because it's related to A:TLA. I'm so glad they put the episodes on Nick.com so I don't have to wait til it comes on TV. Btw, yeah, It's on [url=http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/the-legend-of-korra-215-full-episode-k3d2.html]Book 4, Episode 2[/url] as of today.

Edit: Korra Alone tho
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last airbender was my favorite tv show, haven't been keeping up with legend of korra but glad they released back to back seasons.

incoming marathon

last airbender was my favorite tv show, haven't been keeping up with legend of korra but glad they released back to back seasons.

incoming marathon
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Downloading as we speak

Downloading as we speak
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Just watched Book 4 Ep 2, and zero spoilers, but the ending, holy shit I did not see that coming

Just watched Book 4 Ep 2, and zero spoilers, but the ending, holy shit I did not see that coming
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wghen are korra and asami gonna kiss lets be fucking real here

but in all seriousness god i fucking love the avatar series and it is probably my favorite out of everything. i was insanely disappointed by book 2 and i had my doubts with book 3 and it took me a while to even watch it, but when i did i was so glad i did because it was incredible and i am not disappointed anymore!!!!!

also asami is the greatest and obligatory fuck mako

wghen are korra and asami gonna kiss lets be fucking real here

but in all seriousness god i fucking love the avatar series and it is probably my favorite out of everything. i was insanely disappointed by book 2 and i had my doubts with book 3 and it took me a while to even watch it, but when i did i was so glad i did because it was incredible and i am not disappointed anymore!!!!!

also asami is the greatest and obligatory fuck mako
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By you guys saying theres a twist at the end im guessing this is the episode that she finds Toph?

By you guys saying theres a twist at the end im guessing this is the episode that she finds Toph?
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King_GimliBy you guys saying theres a twist at the end im guessing this is the episode that she finds Toph?
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Yea.
[quote=King_Gimli]By you guys saying theres a twist at the end im guessing this is the episode that she finds Toph?[/quote]
[spoiler]Yea.[/spoiler]
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It's a good show, but I was really hoping for much more considering how good the last airbender was. Besides the forced angsty teenage romance, the weak antagonist development (something TLA did categorically well), new plots every season (subjective), what really bothers me the most is the lazy writing for the fights. The last airbender had such style when it came to the fights, incorporating a diverse amount of real world martial arts.

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Now, even an orphaned homeless kid figures out how to bend lightning and the final fight during harmonic convergence, it was just a mess of giant godzillas flailing their glowing energy dicks around. It's a cartoon, impressing by way of scale only really cuts it for the kids.

They're missing the flair that TLA had. Zuko vs that commander guy, Zuko and Iro doing the dragon form, Toph vs earthbenders, Sokka's sword training, I could go on and on.

It's not that Legend of Korra isn't good, and if you haven't seen TLA, by all means it's a good show. But since it's tried to connect to TLA in its timeline, you can't help but compare and that makes the whole show that much weaker. If you've seen The Dark Knight Rises you might understand where I'm coming from.

It's a good show, but I was really hoping for much more considering how good the last airbender was. Besides the forced angsty teenage romance, the weak antagonist development (something TLA did categorically well), new plots every season (subjective), what really bothers me the most is the lazy writing for the fights. The last airbender had such style when it came to the fights, incorporating a diverse amount of real world martial arts. [spoiler]Now, even an orphaned homeless kid figures out how to bend lightning and the final fight during harmonic convergence, it was just a mess of giant godzillas flailing their glowing energy dicks around. It's a cartoon, impressing by way of scale only really cuts it for the kids.[/spoiler] They're missing the flair that TLA had. Zuko vs that commander guy, Zuko and Iro doing the dragon form, Toph vs earthbenders, Sokka's sword training, I could go on and on.

It's not that Legend of Korra isn't good, and if you haven't seen TLA, by all means it's a good show. But since it's tried to connect to TLA in its timeline, you can't help but compare and that makes the whole show that much weaker. If you've seen The Dark Knight Rises you might understand where I'm coming from.
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the fighting in the korra universe as opposed to aang's time has changed a lot over the years. lightningbending and metalbending have become much more available as it was discovered and i think it's great. the benders now are as powerful as the benders back then because of the development of technology and i think that can be why there is a lack of formal bending techniques.

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i will agree tho that the kaiju fight at the end of book 2 was absolute horseshit garbage. but the finale's fight versus zaheer is definitely my favorite that isn't the zuko vs. azula agni kai.
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the main problem i have with korra is just there's really no character development for literally anyone but korra and jinora and kai i guess. even fucking kai has more character development than asami, mako and bolin, and that kid's been in the series for half a season. everyone in ATLA had their own episodes and their own focus but that just does not happen in LOK and as asami is the best in the world i would like to have an episode around her and only her thank you.
the fighting in the korra universe as opposed to aang's time has changed a lot over the years. lightningbending and metalbending have become much more available as it was discovered and i think it's great. the benders now are as powerful as the benders back then because of the development of technology and i think that can be why there is a lack of formal bending techniques.

[spoiler]i will agree tho that the kaiju fight at the end of book 2 was absolute horseshit garbage. but the finale's fight versus zaheer is definitely my favorite that isn't the zuko vs. azula agni kai.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]the main problem i have with korra is just there's really no character development for literally anyone but korra and jinora and kai i guess. even fucking kai has more character development than asami, mako and bolin, and that kid's been in the series for half a season. everyone in ATLA had their own episodes and their own focus but that just does not happen in LOK and as asami is the best in the world i would like to have an episode around her and only her thank you.[/spoiler]
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Compared to TLA, I disliked Korra a lot. It had way lower expectations than I thought, and I hated the final fight in the s1 finale. I saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.

Compared to TLA, I disliked Korra a lot. It had way lower expectations than I thought, and I hated the final fight in the s1 finale. I saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.
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I loved the original didn't realize i missed a season over the summer until last week, watched the whole season in a few days at least i'm all caught up now.

I loved the original didn't realize i missed a season over the summer until last week, watched the whole season in a few days at least i'm all caught up now.
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i miss amon

i miss amon
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Just finished catching up on book 4. This should be the last season and I'm hoping they really finish with a bang. The entire series overall has been a disappointment for me but these first two episodes were very powerful and I hope it's building up to something good.

Just finished catching up on book 4. This should be the last season and I'm hoping they really finish with a bang. The entire series overall has been a disappointment for me but these first two episodes were very powerful and I hope it's building up to something good.
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It is the last season, they only ordered three more after the first one. Kind of a shame because it's rare to see a quality animated series last beyond two seasons (RIP Young Justice).

It is the last season, they only ordered three more after the first one. Kind of a shame because it's rare to see a quality animated series last beyond two seasons (RIP Young Justice).
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For all of those that just watched the first and second season and then stopped, I highly encourage you keep going. Book 3 was absolutely fantastic and rivaled the original ATLA seasons. Season 4 is pretty damn good so far too :D

For all of those that just watched the first and second season and then stopped, I highly encourage you keep going. Book 3 was absolutely fantastic and rivaled the original ATLA seasons. Season 4 is pretty damn good so far too :D
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S1 was ok. S2 was still ok but worse than S1. S3 was terrific.

FenryrI saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.

Did you somehow watch different episodes than I did? Because IMO those two origin episodes were really the best of all of the lackluster second season.

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The lionturtles didn't make people bending masters, they merely gave them the capacity to bend the elements. And pretty much all the humans who did get that power were pretty unskilled with it (except the proto-air nation seemed to be doing alright? it's been a while and I don't 100% remember). Whereas Wan actually went and trained with the spirit animals to learn to master all the elements, there's a bit where he's learning the dancing dragon from an actual dragon and so on. They do skim over it in a kind of training montage thing for the sake of time but it's all pretty much in line with AtLA, only the stuff with Raava/Vaatu and the spirit portals and all was new, but that also didn't exactly contradict anything either.

I mean there were a lot of problems with season 2 in general but the origin story wasn't one of them.
S1 was ok. S2 was still ok but worse than S1. S3 was terrific.

[quote=Fenryr]I saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.[/quote]

Did you somehow watch different episodes than I did? Because IMO those two origin episodes were really the best of all of the lackluster second season.

[spoiler]The lionturtles didn't make people bending masters, they merely gave them the capacity to bend the elements. And pretty much all the humans who did get that power were pretty unskilled with it (except the proto-air nation seemed to be doing alright? it's been a while and I don't 100% remember). Whereas Wan actually went and trained with the spirit animals to learn to master all the elements, there's a bit where he's learning the dancing dragon from an actual dragon and so on. They do skim over it in a kind of training montage thing for the sake of time but it's all pretty much in line with AtLA, only the stuff with Raava/Vaatu and the spirit portals and all was new, but that also didn't exactly contradict anything either.

I mean there were a lot of problems with season 2 in general but the origin story wasn't one of them.[/spoiler]
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This show gets really dark sometimes and I love it.

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That scene where Tarrlok killed both himself and Amon at the end of season 1 holy shit. And Zaheer just bending the air out of the earth queens body to kill her like what the fuck is this really a childrens show??
This show gets really dark sometimes and I love it.

[spoiler]That scene where Tarrlok killed both himself and Amon at the end of season 1 holy shit. And Zaheer just bending the air out of the earth queens body to kill her like what the fuck is this really a childrens show??[/spoiler]
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edyThis show gets really dark sometimes and I love it.
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That scene where Tarrlok killed both himself and Amon at the end of season 1 holy shit. And Zaheer just bending the air out of the earth queens body to kill her like what the fuck is this really a childrens show??

That's another thing that bothers me. So many elements feel lazily written, and certain things feel forced into the show (that god damn angsty romance), almost as if against the writers' intentions, and then they realize they need to somehow make the show unique like TLA did with its darker tones and just smashed some edgy bits here and there to make up for it.

I'm probably over thinking it at this point but Legend of Korra certainly did not have the same style and subtlety as TLA.

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Though I will admit, Tarlok an heroing did make me shit my pants a bit. But that was the only redeeming factor of that series.
[quote=edy]This show gets really dark sometimes and I love it.

[spoiler]That scene where Tarrlok killed both himself and Amon at the end of season 1 holy shit. And Zaheer just bending the air out of the earth queens body to kill her like what the fuck is this really a childrens show??[/spoiler][/quote]

That's another thing that bothers me. So many elements feel lazily written, and certain things feel forced into the show (that god damn angsty romance), almost as if against the writers' intentions, and then they realize they need to somehow make the show unique like TLA did with its darker tones and just smashed some edgy bits here and there to make up for it.

I'm probably over thinking it at this point but Legend of Korra certainly did not have the same style and subtlety as TLA. [spoiler]Though I will admit, Tarlok an heroing did make me shit my pants a bit. But that was the only redeeming factor of that series.[/spoiler]
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PenguinS1 was ok. S2 was still ok but worse than S1. S3 was terrific.
FenryrI saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.
Did you somehow watch different episodes than I did? Because IMO those two origin episodes were really the best of all of the lackluster second season.
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The lionturtles didn't make people bending masters, they merely gave them the capacity to bend the elements. And pretty much all the humans who did get that power were pretty unskilled with it (except the proto-air nation seemed to be doing alright? it's been a while and I don't 100% remember). Whereas Wan actually went and trained with the spirit animals to learn to master all the elements, there's a bit where he's learning the dancing dragon from an actual dragon and so on. They do skim over it in a kind of training montage thing for the sake of time but it's all pretty much in line with AtLA, only the stuff with Raava/Vaatu and the spirit portals and all was new, but that also didn't exactly contradict anything either.

I mean there were a lot of problems with season 2 in general but the origin story wasn't one of them.

In the beginning, the hunters know how to firebend pretty well, whereas in TLA Zuko learned that firebending is about understanding the colorful, life-giving properties it has rather than fueling it with hatred. The hunters just use it to get food, and you don't see them develop through becoming a firebender, even though they use firebending for 24 hours> at a time. You don't see the real struggle of learning an element like with Aang, Katara, or Zuko. Not to mention a lot of the spirits are comic-relief and get really annoying early on, and were in the physical world. I do like the art-style in those two episodes though. I just felt like the series wasn't nearly as developed with its characters as TLA, and the suspense was sort of lacking. Every episode in TLA was written like a well-developed movie(Except the Great Divide), and introduces something new without forcing something through.

[quote=Penguin]S1 was ok. S2 was still ok but worse than S1. S3 was terrific.

[quote=Fenryr]I saw the episodes of the first avatar's story in s2 and just was sad. They ruined the idea of how bending came to be, where the people learned from the animals, like fire to dragon, air to bison, earth to mole, and water to moon spirit/fish. After those two, it just seemed like ok lemme just get to a lionturtle and be a master at any element with no training gg, let me get a spirit inside me so I can go to avatar state whenever. It's just a lot less developed overall, and ruins the mystical history that was explained in TLA.[/quote]

Did you somehow watch different episodes than I did? Because IMO those two origin episodes were really the best of all of the lackluster second season.

[spoiler]The lionturtles didn't make people bending masters, they merely gave them the capacity to bend the elements. And pretty much all the humans who did get that power were pretty unskilled with it (except the proto-air nation seemed to be doing alright? it's been a while and I don't 100% remember). Whereas Wan actually went and trained with the spirit animals to learn to master all the elements, there's a bit where he's learning the dancing dragon from an actual dragon and so on. They do skim over it in a kind of training montage thing for the sake of time but it's all pretty much in line with AtLA, only the stuff with Raava/Vaatu and the spirit portals and all was new, but that also didn't exactly contradict anything either.

I mean there were a lot of problems with season 2 in general but the origin story wasn't one of them.[/spoiler][/quote]

In the beginning, the hunters know how to firebend pretty well, whereas in TLA Zuko learned that firebending is about understanding the colorful, life-giving properties it has rather than fueling it with hatred. The hunters just use it to get food, and you don't see them develop through becoming a firebender, even though they use firebending for 24 hours> at a time. You don't see the real struggle of learning an element like with Aang, Katara, or Zuko. Not to mention a lot of the spirits are comic-relief and get really annoying early on, and were in the physical world. I do like the art-style in those two episodes though. I just felt like the series wasn't nearly as developed with its characters as TLA, and the suspense was sort of lacking. Every episode in TLA was written like a well-developed movie(Except the Great Divide), and introduces something new without forcing something through.
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Loving LOK so far, you can't expect it to be the same as TLA, different people are in charge of different things for the show, they also have to appeal to what people like these days and appeal to the audience who watched TLA and are older now. I don't know, any time we get a reference/character from TLA, it's enough to keep watching the show, but even without that, you still have the fantastic step-up in writing between season 1 and season 2. looks like season 3 will also be a good one.

Loving LOK so far, you can't expect it to be the same as TLA, different people are in charge of different things for the show, they also have to appeal to what people like these days and appeal to the audience who watched TLA and are older now. I don't know, any time we get a reference/character from TLA, it's enough to keep watching the show, but even without that, you still have the fantastic step-up in writing between season 1 and season 2. looks like season 3 will also be a good one.
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In the beginning, the hunters know how to firebend pretty well, whereas in TLA Zuko learned that firebending is about understanding the colorful, life-giving properties it has rather than fueling it with hatred. The hunters just use it to get food, and you don't see them develop through becoming a firebender, even though they use firebending for 24 hours> at a time.

i'm confused, are you talking aobut the dudes from the origin story? because a bunch of doofus hunters punching their fists to make a flame fart does not mean they bend well and does equate to the same amount of mastery wan gets when he trains with the dragons. especially when the lion turtle only gives them the bending when they leave the city to go into the spirit wilds.

[quote]In the beginning, the hunters know how to firebend pretty well, whereas in TLA Zuko learned that firebending is about understanding the colorful, life-giving properties it has rather than fueling it with hatred. The hunters just use it to get food, and you don't see them develop through becoming a firebender, even though they use firebending for 24 hours> at a time.[/quote]

i'm confused, are you talking aobut the dudes from the origin story? because a bunch of doofus hunters punching their fists to make a flame fart does not mean they bend well and does equate to the same amount of mastery wan gets when he trains with the dragons. especially when the lion turtle only gives them the bending when they leave the city to go into the spirit wilds.
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i'm confused, are you talking aobut the dudes from the origin story? because a bunch of doofus hunters punching their fists to make a flame fart does not mean they bend well and does equate to the same amount of mastery wan gets when he trains with the dragons. especially when the lion turtle only gives them the bending when they leave the city to go into the spirit wilds.[/quote]

Yes, I am talking about the hunters. They know how to bend sufficiently enough, nothing too masterful, after a lion turtle touches them. The lion turtle never explained how to bend, and it doesnt show the hunters learning firebending techniques from anywhere. TLA explains the original firebenders were the sun warriors that learned from the dragons, and it sucks to see something like that converted to dipshit hunters automatically knowing how to firebend.

i'm confused, are you talking aobut the dudes from the origin story? because a bunch of doofus hunters punching their fists to make a flame fart does not mean they bend well and does equate to the same amount of mastery wan gets when he trains with the dragons. especially when the lion turtle only gives them the bending when they leave the city to go into the spirit wilds.[/quote]

Yes, I am talking about the hunters. They know how to bend sufficiently enough, nothing too masterful, after a lion turtle touches them. The lion turtle never explained how to bend, and it doesnt show the hunters learning firebending techniques from anywhere. TLA explains the original firebenders were the sun warriors that learned from the dragons, and it sucks to see something like that converted to dipshit hunters automatically knowing how to firebend.
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i don't see the problem? the lion turtles gave bending, they didn't teach it like the dragons taught the sun warriors.

i don't see the problem? the lion turtles gave bending, they didn't teach it like the dragons taught the sun warriors.
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Fenryr, let's compare it to real world fighting, everyone can get a sword, but it takes a lot of practise before someone actually is able to master the art of it.

Fenryr, let's compare it to real world fighting, everyone can get a sword, but it takes a lot of practise before someone actually is able to master the art of it.
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I kinda see where Fenryr is coming from, he just justifies his point poorly.

The legend of bending coming from animals is more believable and plays well with the universe of TLA (themes of respecting nature, fire nation are the industrialists etc etc). When LOK changed that to the lion turtles giving bending (which also killed the fantasy of lion turtles from the first series for me, but I digress) because they're just some omnipotent being, it ruins the believability and well-delineated universe of TLA. This sort of ties in with my comment of how even a simpleton can lightningbend and metalbend and that nothing is really special anymore. They could have very easily kept those abilities a "legendary skill" but hey, when they give a villain bending overnight (because spirits!) and then have him master an ability that even the avatar couldn't, you can see what direction the writers were headed with this.

I kinda see where Fenryr is coming from, he just justifies his point poorly.

The legend of bending coming from animals is more believable and plays well with the universe of TLA (themes of respecting nature, fire nation are the industrialists etc etc). When LOK changed that to the lion turtles giving bending (which also killed the fantasy of lion turtles from the first series for me, but I digress) because they're just some omnipotent being, it ruins the believability and well-delineated universe of TLA. This sort of ties in with my comment of how even a simpleton can lightningbend and metalbend and that nothing is really special anymore. They could have very easily kept those abilities a "legendary skill" but hey, when they give a villain bending overnight (because spirits!) and then have him master an ability that even the avatar couldn't, you can see what direction the writers were headed with this.
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