solid team and nice guys, join up and go places
p.s. please stop solo ubering a soldier into the sentry on gpit b
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solid team and nice guys, join up and go places
p.s. please stop solo ubering a soldier into the sentry on gpit b
should've used ggglygy for the match
infinite-if you truly believe that the two leagues coming together is a good idea, why did you block the efforts to make it so the top 8 ugc 6s teams would get free premium/league fees for the following season of esea
Using the same rule set and map pool is certainly a strong step forward towards cooperation made by UGC. I don't see you giving any credit for that, only focusing on negatives as usual.
None of the ESEA admins ever spoke to Forn or I about this plan specifically. Someone talked to our 6s admin but I never heard any concrete plans from ESEA admins.
Secondly, how does that benefit UGC? Seems to me it only funnels teams away from UGC to ESEA. I am fine cooperating, but cooperation is a two way street. If any of the ESEA admins would like to discuss this idea in more detail they are free to add me or forn.
1. you can't possibly, after being an admin for so long, get angry when people "only focus on the negatives".
2. most of the positive contributions made by ugc 6s were done by marxist, because he was the one who spearheaded the drive to make ugc 6s the "training camp", so to speak, for the higher echelons of the esea divisions. and you know what? this effort has been hugely successful- rather than being a mess of various skill levels in a joke league, many teams that want to improve but don't feel good enough for esea and don't want to pay the money have a place.
3. I don't see how you can trumpet all the positive steps taken by your ugc 6s admin and then not give him enough autonomy for a modest plan that does not hurt your league. it just proves that you're an egomaniac.
4. you are thinking really short term and narrowly if you believe that this plan doesn't eventually benefit ugc. if too many good teams get stuck in ugc because they just don't feel like they can commit to paying for esea, or they don't have a sponsor like even better teams do, this provides them a way to keep the divisions balanced and for turnover to begin, so the ugc 6s league retains its reputation as a good league for beginning to low/mid teams. and no, it's not a viable option to try to make a ugc 6s league be a true rival to esea, including a skilled top division. no league since esea has ever successfully competed in terms of invite and im teams flocking to them, and none in na will while it exists. the prestige and professionalism of esea is too great.
5. even if the plan didn't help ugc, it could only be seen as hurting it if one is openly hostile towards esea, which you are to a fault. 8 teams in the grand scheme of things is tiny.
tl;dr you dumb girl
I got a triple backstab as spy on this map in a new map pug
good map
tournaments and seasons are inherently different, I don't see why the map list/weapon bans need to be different either
infinite-6v6, and specifically esea 6v6, has a higher skill level than any ugc league. marxist, the head ugc 6s admin, has accepted this and has (very successfully) tried to turn ugc 6s into a transitional league for newer teams, the "base" that feeds into open
I am certainly glad both leagues can work a little closer together because regardless of whether folks agree with my view on rules or not, we all share the same goal of keeping competitive TF2 alive. UGC has certainly helped supplying new teams to ESEA by providing a free to play atmosphere initially and those who want a more intense pay-to-play model can move to ESEA. It would be nice to see some ESEA teams move over to UGC and help us out as well. Maybe both leagues can benefit from working together.
Inter league consistency is definitely a good thing, as well as the standardization of rule sets. While I do not agree with all the bans, I do acknowledge that ESEA 6s has been around longer and is the "established" way to play 6v6 TF2. Though I still believe (personal opinion) that the class limits and weapon bans have hampered its potential growth over the years. It would be nice if some of the weapons/items which make off classes more viable could be tried in an "experimental" cup or something.
if you truly believe that the two leagues coming together is a good idea, why did you block the efforts to make it so the top 8 ugc 6s teams would get free premium/league fees for the following season of esea
heinI wonder what's more brutal, 1 wrangled sentry in HL, or 2 engy's in 6's (non-wrangler). Such strategies in 6's (especially gravelpit) can open up teams to some pretty radical setups. Hard to prepare against that. med/demo/sold/2 eng/hw is a tough egg to crack on gpit.
2 engis has been banned in 6s for precisely that reason
the top of the pyramid is always the smallest
6v6, and specifically esea 6v6, has a higher skill level than any ugc league. marxist, the head ugc 6s admin, has accepted this and has (very successfully) tried to turn ugc 6s into a transitional league for newer teams, the "base" that feeds into open
there's nothing wrong with the most prestigious league having the fewest teams, that's like saying "lol invite only has 8 teams so invite tf2 is dead"
god I fuckin hate death grips
im sorry but
fuck
heinmustardoverlordthe ugc head admins are convinced that there's some sort of "circle jerk" here that keeps minusfragging all their posts and hating on them without reading them
in reality the majority of users here have never heard of them before, and it's because the real circlejerk is on the ugc forums, where those same admins have been the main posters for like 10 years, and thus they got used to not being called out every time they made dumb arguments not supported by logic and reason
I dont think I've called this a circlejerk and I'm also not getting minus fragged (cept the one where I insulted sdogg which was childish, this one might though haha). I'm on an esea-im team and rather enjoy 6's. Both HL and 6's have their merit. This has kind of strayed from topic a little. sdogg has a lot of great points that are valid as does mustardoverlord. We've made a lot of changes over the last 4 seasons in the right direction to being competitive. I think wrangler is one huge barrier that might take some time to be breeched. Invite limit was lifted and the vitasaw was banned this season. Those are two things that would be nice to get some focus on us actually listening......but there will sadly always be unhappiness. I apologize its not moving as quickly as needed. But as stated quite a bit, this game setting is currently very heavily built on new players. Some of those new teams really need that extra defense to even hold a point. As marisa posted, it could work to let plat/silver do a vote (or each vote). I'm not opposed to that and its been discussed. We will just give it another season. Bear with us
mustardoverlordin reality the majority of users here have never heard of them before[......]and thus they got used to not being called out every time they made dumb arguments not supported by logic and reason
I'd say I have a pretty good reputation and am fairly well known since I played back in the beta days with a good bit of the people that are still playing. You're generalizing. And maybe you are still new to those forums, but there's not a decision that goes by that its not argued over haha.
But again, we've made strides and hopefully they will be noticed this season.
I should clarify that my post was still 90% directed at infinite, you've at least TRIED to make logical arguments
well, the deletion of the thread might only be evidence of the policy in place, but that policy was set by the same 2-3 idiots that decided the ban in the first place, a group of people who have total autonomy, and could easily keep such a policy simply because they don't like criticism of anything they do
executive privilege brah
SalamancerThe UGC admins have already stated they won't discuss their cheat review process. Based on that policy, it's easy to understand why they would delete your thread.
the only reason they won't discuss their cheat review process is because their cheat review process is basically "infinite thinks someone hacks, bans them"
the ugc head admins are convinced that there's some sort of "circle jerk" here that keeps minusfragging all their posts and hating on them without reading them
in reality the majority of users here have never heard of them before, and it's because the real circlejerk is on the ugc forums, where those same admins have been the main posters for like 10 years, and thus they got used to not being called out every time they made dumb arguments not supported by logic and reason
ants are legitimately one of the smartest animals on earth, just not individually
dat hivemind n1g