I really wanted to get people who had been around for ages, guys like Marxist, the Fragile, eXtine and do a youtube series talking about who old school guys were and what their legacies in the game actually are. Wanted to do something like thorins who is X videos and in cases where the person was accessible doing something like his reflections videos.

The closest we ever got were sideshows brief on the point series and kritzkasts recent talking with ... live stream series is good as well although it is much less sixes focused.

rahThreads dont appear at a high enough volume.

We need more.

I found him highly entertaining to pug with. Seems like a good dude.

High school friends were all playing TF2 and had to struggle to convince this idiot to play it.
Person on my hockey team found out I played TF2 and suggested we try and play a competitive season. I then was hooked.

As much as I'd like to pretend its for something good, it's probably this:

https://i.imgur.com/4DXChVw.jpg

The biggest thing i've noticed is on this part is

People say dont do it no one is forcing you
Person listens and steps down
New person doesn't do as well as old person because of lack of experience in the role or the role cant be properly filled
People say WTF why is new person so much worse than old person?

From my personal experience, when I was active casting people would ask for other casters instead of me because they viewed them to be better. Then I ultimately stopped casting but then returned to play on a team a year later, people would then ask me if I was going to come back casting because they perceived me to be better than the casters active at the time. Now, I didn't leave because of criticism, but it's definitely a pattern I've seen regularly.

The other pattern I've seen is that powers that be and talent can have their frustrations develop into an us (people working for the scene) vs them (people in the scene) mentality, or alternatively don't conduct themselves in an endearing way on the forum and can come off as pompous or condescending. An example being Ire, I don't think anyone dislikes the job he's doing running NA coverage (I am out of the loop so I could be off base on this, but from what I've seen he gets games casted and news posts out so something is going right) but comments like the one Reero posted in this thread certainly will sour the view of the community towards him, which in turn leads to increased levels of backlash.

TLDR
I guess if I'm trying to make a point, the ideal world would be:
community: keep the criticism on those contributing to the scene civil. Keep pushing them to be better and keep telling them how you think they can be better. You can still drive change, but don't call them a stupid motherfucker, and dont try to push them to leave the scene.

talent/staff: Listen to the criticism, dont be condescending, be professional, and for the love of god if someone doesn't like what you do or how you do something, dont tell them to shove it, dont tell them to go elsewhere or dont tell them to do it themselves.

Al fredodan pounds. Never heard a bad thing about him either.

Both of these again. He actually fucks at demo so hard, I'd love to see what he could do on a high advance low invite team.

I'd also love to see him off class with me on another iteration of frantic. So... yknow, maybe also dont pick him up :D

This is awesome.

Also if anyone gets a chance, definitely try eXtine's hot sauces. He brought me some last time we crossed paths and I LOVED IT, highly recommended.

Damn he's back? Hell yeah.

Was super fun to pug with back in the day.

Played with him like 5 years ago. He was a fragger then and fun to be around, was one of my favorites on that team. The season was a shit show but he was great. I'm assuming he's just as enjoyable as he used to be and even better at the game.

I feel like I should clarify it wasn't an RGL admin I reached out to, but a server admin from LAN days. Edited my post to make that clear

My understanding is that most STVs have limited slots. Generally the ones available for CSGO Majors and other high traffic availabilities (I believe all ESEA servers were STV/GOTV relays, hence that weird issue where the STV was broken in later seasons, but thats a longer story) are STV relays. Relays can support a much higher number of people in it without causing lag to the GOTV/STV. They dont tend to have a capacity limit or if they do it is very high. I'm not sure how setting up a relay works but it's more effort server side to set up. STVs themselves can have incredibly low numbers, I remember we had to change servers for a TFLive cast I did in like...2015? Where the STV had a capacity limit of 2 people, which meant we couldnt have our observer and both casters in.

Realistically the rule is in place so there isn't some awkward issue where RGL is all set to cast their match but cant get their casters into the game due to STV capacity and have to try and figure out who got in instead, ask for a server change and a new STV, or cancel their cast. Ideally as well, the rule theoretically forces the limited coverage resources in the scene to spread themselves out among different games, maximizing invite coverage, as opposed to having 4 feeds on the same game. (Again, showing my age, I remember a big UGC HL set of drama with eXtv and EVLTV covering the same match even though the agreement was they wouldn't)

Hopefully that slightly clarifies things regarding STV and also helps explain what I am assuming (Note: Im just a simple caster, I'm not privy to how rules come around, this is just speculation from 7 years of source game casting) is the reason this rule exists in the first place.

Edit: Ideally someone from ozfortress can hop in this thread and either confirm my understanding of relays or debunk something I said as I know ozfortress frequently had relays done for casting purposes. Alternatively Mitch could also confirm this as he took care of a lot of relay related stuff when I worked with him for CSGO.

Edit #2: I reached out to a non RGL TF2 admin I worked with frequently from my casting days, they told me that what I've said is correct, and added that having >3 normal STV slots can cause lag on the player side, hence the use of relays for more prominent streams.

Never had an issue with the Netgear one I used to use.

https://youtu.be/o10saX2J-YA?t=1645

Stark vs Jasmine Tea at i58.

I'm still speechless.